I've not had much luck with Seeing AI's document channel, either. Strange. I'm 
getting a bit better at getting the hold steady announcement a little faster--I 
guess all that practice with KNFB was helpful--but once the pic is processed by 
Seeing AI, 99% of the time, I get a message about there being no text. It's 
super frustrating. And since I'm pretty sure Seeing AI's default is to control 
the flash automatically, and since I do get results on the same text using the 
short text channel, I have no idea why this is happening.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:57 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> That is not my experience at all.
> But, if you do not care about document layout, then KNFB is faster.
> With the Short Text mode, once it starts reading the page, point the camera 
> to a blank spot on your desk, because the entire point of the short text mode 
> is to read on the fly, so any movement that focuses on other text, or changes 
> the focus on the same text, will be treated as a new scan. It isn't really 
> designed for whole page scanning, that is what the document channel is for.
> But, if it doesn't work for you, sticking with KNFB makes perfect sense.
> Scott White, at NFB, tells me that format retention should be in an update 
> this year for KNFB.
> Something I've asked for since it was released.
> Here's hoping it finally happens.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
> 
> On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:24 PM, kelby carlson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> So, I'm now working in a court and have to deal with lots of paper 
>> documents. So I am using OCR much more. This has given me the chance to 
>> really compare KNFB Reader (which I honestly hadn't used much even though I 
>> bought it) and Seeing AI.
>> 
>> My conclusion: KNFB still beats Seeing AI for scanning print documents by a 
>> country mile.
>> 
>> Take what is called a "face sheet" for a docket, which contains all the 
>> basic information about a case. When trying to do the document channel with 
>> Seeing AI, it would continually tellm me that one or more edges was not 
>> visible no matter how much I adjusted the phone. When I raised the phone 
>> really high and got a "hold steady" it would take a picture but not 
>> recognize a bit of text.
>> 
>> With KNFB: I center the camera, lift it up, take a couple field of views to 
>> orient, take a picture and it reads the sheet almost immediately, with very 
>> few flaws at all.
>> 
>> In each case I'm using the same camera and positioning it in the same way. I 
>> can only conclude, then, that it is a difference in the apps.
>> 
>> Seeing AI's short text feature in this case actually worked better than the 
>> document channel, for some reason, but typically still gives garbled text ap 
>> some points and will also stop if you move the camera even a milimeter.
>> 
>> So, I think with a few exceptions I'll be sticking with KNFB Reader.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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