The only reason I use kNFB FB reader now is  is when I want to have more than 
one page in a single document. I don’t think seeing AI does that yet.

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Executive Director of Counseling
Old Dominion University
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> On Jan 20, 2018, at 2:21 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> I've not had much luck with Seeing AI's document channel, either. Strange. 
> I'm getting a bit better at getting the hold steady announcement a little 
> faster--I guess all that practice with KNFB was helpful--but once the pic is 
> processed by Seeing AI, 99% of the time, I get a message about there being no 
> text. It's super frustrating. And since I'm pretty sure Seeing AI's default 
> is to control the flash automatically, and since I do get results on the same 
> text using the short text channel, I have no idea why this is happening.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:57 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That is not my experience at all. 
>> But, if you do not care about document layout, then KNFB is faster.
>> With the Short Text mode, once it starts reading the page, point the camera 
>> to a blank spot on your desk, because the entire point of the short text 
>> mode is to read on the fly, so any movement that focuses on other text, or 
>> changes the focus on the same text, will be treated as a new scan. It isn't 
>> really designed for whole page scanning, that is what the document channel 
>> is for.
>> But, if it doesn't work for you, sticking with KNFB makes perfect sense.
>> Scott White, at NFB, tells me that format retention should be in an update 
>> this year for KNFB.
>> Something I've asked for since it was released.
>> Here's hoping it finally happens.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>> 
>> On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:24 PM, kelby carlson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> So, I'm now working in a court and have to deal with lots of paper 
>>> documents. So I am using OCR much more. This has given me the chance to 
>>> really compare KNFB Reader (which I honestly hadn't used much even though I 
>>> bought it) and Seeing AI.
>>> 
>>> My conclusion: KNFB still beats Seeing AI for scanning print documents by a 
>>> country mile.
>>> 
>>> Take what is called a "face sheet" for a docket, which contains all the 
>>> basic information about a case. When trying to do the document channel with 
>>> Seeing AI, it would continually tellm me that one or more edges was not 
>>> visible no matter how much I adjusted the phone. When I raised the phone 
>>> really high and got a "hold steady" it would take a picture but not 
>>> recognize a bit of text.
>>> 
>>> With KNFB: I center the camera, lift it up, take a couple field of views to 
>>> orient, take a picture and it reads the sheet almost immediately, with very 
>>> few flaws at all.
>>> 
>>> In each case I'm using the same camera and positioning it in the same way. 
>>> I can only conclude, then, that it is a difference in the apps.
>>> 
>>> Seeing AI's short text feature in this case actually worked better than the 
>>> document channel, for some reason, but typically still gives garbled text 
>>> ap some points and will also stop if you move the camera even a milimeter.
>>> 
>>> So, I think with a few exceptions I'll be sticking with KNFB Reader.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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