Hi, The GSM frequencies used in the US version of the CDMA phones, i.e. Verizon and Sprint, are for those outside the US. It's not a true Tri-band World phone. So when you insert a micro sim for either AT&T or T-Mobile you are only going to run on their GSM networks and not the LTE network. The LTE radio in the Verizon phone is for their network, not other networks. If you want more detailed information about which chips are being used on which networks I suggest you research them at the Qualcom site or other sites on the web that may have already done the research. I am just suggesting that from what I have read and heard on podcasts like Rob Walshes TII and others that this is the case, so before you go and purchase a verizon phone to use on another network and expect LTE speeds you better do your homework.
Keith On Sep 23, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Keith, > > That is surprising since I just listened to the latest Today in iOS Podcast > and Rob confirmed that while there was only one iPhone 4S which worked both > on CDMA and GSM carriers, there are now once again 3 iPhone 5 models, a CDMA > version for Verizon and Sprint and a carrier in Japan and 2 different GSM > models, one for AT&T, Rogers, Telus and Bell in North America and another > one for European, Australian and New Zealand and some Asian carriers. > Apparently the difference here is in the LTE and he said there will most > likely be another one or 2 iPhone 5 models for China. > > I don't really understand the whole locking to a carrier thing anyways. > After all, if I for example buy a subsidized iPhone from Telus here in > Canada where I have to sign up for a 3-year contract to get the full > subsidy, why don't they just give me an unlocked phone and sign me up for a > 3-year contract. Then if after a year I decide to go to ?Rogers they would > just say that I haven't fulfilled my contract and impose a stiff penalty > which means I most likely wouldn't do it and even if I did Telus would be > paid what I owe them for the phone. After all, I can break the contract now > and pay whatever penalty they impose and once I have done this and am off > the contract I can ask them for an official unlock. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Keith Watson > Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 6:51 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Verizon iPhone 5 > > Hi, > > Apparently this is the case. Verizon is shipping it already unlocked and you > can use it on AT&T's and T-Mobile networks. Here's the caveat though. When > you use it on the US carriers GSM networks you will only get HTSPA speeds. > No LTE. So buyer be ware. > > Keith > > On Sep 23, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Kevin Barry <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Are you sure it is not the way Verizon does this for the 4s? >> That is, you can get it unlocked for free but only for international > use. >> I've used my Verizon 4s quite well in Asia with a local sim card. >> When you do that I always see in the notification center that location > services is on. >> I presume this is to allow the phone to verify it is out of the U.S. >> >> At 09:31 AM 9/23/2012, you wrote: >>> For those of us who purchased or plan to purchase, the verizon iPhone 5, > may be happy to know that the phone comes unlocked and can be used on any > GSM network. Several sources are reporting such as the New York Times, CNET, > etc. I also confirmed this from verizon customer service. Whether this was > by designed or not, I don't know. But this is a welcomed surprise. I'm > happy to know that I can use my phone on other networks if need be. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" > Google Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
