APH delayed and put off the release so long that we're suspicious of buying one 
of them.


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: best braille display foor ios and bluetooth

Did anyone happen to see the following on Blind Bargains?

Breaking: APH Announces Orders For the Orbit Reader 20 Will Start February 2

Scott Davert Feb 01, 2018 11:04 PM ET

APH has announced via it's mailing list for the Orbit Reader 20 that they will 
start taking orders tomorrow for the much anticipated braille display/notetaker.

In the message, Ken Perry of APH stated: "Once we have received orders for our 
available stock, no further orders will be accepted at that time. We expect to 
sell out quickly. Rest assured we will have additional quantities available in 
the near future, and will keep you posted!" Because of the limited availability 
of units, APH is restricting purchases to two Orbit Readers per account or 
individual.

The cost for an Orbit Reader 20 is $449 and you will be able to order in 
several ways:
•through the APH Shop online for non-quota orders only •calling customer 
relations at 800-223-1839 •emailing a purchase order at p...@aph.org •faxing a 
purchase order to 502-899-2284

At the time of writing, the Orbit Reader is not yet available online, but is 
expected to be available tomorrow.

This day has been a long time coming, with the first official announcement of 
the Orbit Reader 20 during the CSUN 2016 conference. For more information about 
the Orbit Reader 20, you can [read a review of the device in the January issue 
of Access World.

Tangela Mahaffey contributed to this report.

-----Original Message-----
From: llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 6:22 AM
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Subject: RE: best braille display foor ios and bluetooth

The Braille Me has two methods of showing the cursor. I would have preferred
8 dots myself but I get their reasoning for doing 6. If you just want to read 
braille like books, 6 dots is fine and $450 is a heck of a lot better than 
three thousand or so. My wife just wants a simple note taker to take to 
doctors, etc. and I just want to read NLS braille books from the library. I 
used an 18-cell Braille lite for years and managed just fine. We can have two 
Braille me devices for less than a thousand.


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Anouk Radix
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 8:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: best braille display foor ios and bluetooth

Hi, I personally like 8-dot braille for showing where the cursor is and for 
showing capital letters.
Greetings, Anouk,

> On 4 Feb 2018, at 06:01, Janet Bell <ja...@jan25.plus.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Richard I grew up with six-dot braille so prefer it I have never really 
> understoodd why we need two more dots as we can use signs   Janet
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Andy Baracco
> Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 7:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: best braille display foor ios and bluetooth
>
> If you go to www.accessibleworld.org you can download a recent podcast 
> on this device.
>
> Andy
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Bell" <ja...@jan25.plus.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 10:08 AM
> Subject: Re: best braille display foor ios and bluetooth
>
>
> what is the braille me p.lease.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: llump...@austin.rr.com
> Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 4:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: best braille display foor ios and bluetooth
>
> We're waiting for the Braille Me. We heard the president of the 
> company on techtalk last Monday and we were very impressed. I highly 
> recommend giving it a listen and giving the product a look.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 9:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: best braille display foor ios and bluetooth
>
> What it comes down to is personal preference.
> I'm waiting to get my hands on the Orbit Reader 20 to see how it 
> compares to other displays.
> I've used:
> HIMS Braille Edge 40,
> Baum's Vario Ultra 20 and 40,
> Humanware's Braillliant BI,
> Freedom Scientific's Focus 40 and 14; not to mention several of the 
> full braille note takers.
>
> Of the above list, the HIMS BrailleEdge 40 was my favorite.  But, when 
> it died after 3 years and was going to cost close to $2,500 to repair 
> when a new one was just a little more, I decided to wait to see the 
> Orbit 20, which I have not seen yet.
>
> I liked the Braille Edge because it is quiet, solidly built, easy to 
> switch from USB to Bluetooth, has basic note taking functionality 
> using an SD card and comes with a 2 year warrantee.
>
> It is too bad there are not places where you can go and test all the 
> displays to see which one fits your needs the best, because there is 
> no one display that is right for everyone.
>
> HTH,
> Richard
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
> Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 7:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>
> They now have a 14 Focus 5th gen as well if you want something smaller.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Anouk Radix
> Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 6:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: best braille display foor ios and bluetooth
>
> So the focus works well with ios 11? I thought it would be a fairly 
> bulky device what are your experiences for using it on the go? Does it 
> work well in combination with laptops or is it to deep so that you 
> have to reach too far back?
> I hope the braille cells wont be broken too quickly… Greetings, Anouk,
>
>> On 3 Feb 2018, at 11:39, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>> I 2nd everything said, plus the fact that it is very quiet, and easy 
>> to use.
>>
>>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 4:13 AM, Eden <eden...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I tried the Brailliant for all of one day in early December. 
>>>> Bluetooth sucked, and Usb was ok but not great. I sent it back. I 
>>>> now have the focus 40 5th gen and absolutely love it. Dot quality 
>>>> is crisper, made of more and steel no plastic, sd  slot included 
>>>> for use as a future ability to read books and possibly write in 
>>>> stand-alone mode.  It comes with a nice case, can connect to five 
>>>> bluetooth devices, and I would recommend it.
>>> Eden
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