The SE has the same processor as the 6s so Apple will end updates for
both at the same time. Based on previous Apple updates, I project that
the last full iOS release for these phones will be in 2019 and all
updates will cease by the summer of 2020. If you go for the SE, buy
the 128 GB version to fit all apps, podcasts, books, and music files.

Other carriers other than the majors offer cheaper cell phone service.
If you do not use a lot of data, you could easily find a cheaper cell
phone plan for less than $20 a month, including taxes. I have this
arrangement with Xfinity. If you have Comcast cable, the company
offers a gig of data for $12 with calls and text for free. If you are
a new phone customer, they sometimes offer good discounts on new
iPhones.  If you are not with Comcast, they can be cost competitive.
When I came to the store for my phone service, they were offering new
customers $19.99 a month internet for a year with free installation.
With the savings with a mobile virtual network operator, you could get
a newer phone or one with more storage.

Kelly




On 4/5/18, Daniel McGee <danielmcgee...@icloud.com> wrote:
> In addition, the SE has a headphone jack. If you require that to be present
> on the iPhone.
>
> I do want to point out as well that even though from the 7 onwards, you can
> use headphones which use the the older style of connecting. Not sure what it
> is called but you will need to use the dongal which will enable you to use a
> 7 and onwards iPhone which do not feature a headphone jack. You should get
> the dongal in your purchase if 7 or above. I know it's less convenient, but
> at least apple provided a solution and believe me, if they didn't, I
> wouldn't of brought another iPhone.
>
> Certainly not because they are not amazing devices which we can hold in the
> palm of our hands but in my particular use case. I use a device which
> assists me with my hearing and the device where I can plug it in to listen
> to audio related stuff, simply required the headphone jack to be present.
>
> So if you are at all concerned about plugging in old headphones which use
> the jack, rest assured for now at least, apple has it covered. Depending on
> which newer iPhone you purchase.
>
> I hope this has been of some help.
>
> Funny how the removal of just one thing could effect one's own view with a
> product. I actually got quite anxious about the headphone jack removal. For
> now though, I'm not so worried.
>
> Daniel
>
>> On 5 Apr 2018, at 13:19, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Bill, Mark covered most points very well.
>> I would point out that the iPhone SE is the same size as the 5s and is
>> slightly newer than the 6s, if that makes any difference for you.
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:00 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Bill,
>>>
>>> You ask questions that some may be reluctant to answer for the simple
>>> fact that each person's circumstances are unique.
>>>
>>> Be that as it may, I will offer some suggestions in order to assist you.
>>> Please keep in mind that this is only my opinion.
>>>
>>> As for determining how to tell which apps will not function in iOS 11, I
>>> will place the steps and a link to the article below my signature.
>>>
>>> 1.
>>> To manually backup your device to iCloud, from the Settings menu, select
>>> your name.
>>>
>>> 2.
>>> Select iCloud.
>>>
>>> 3.
>>> Select and explore the Backup area.
>>>
>>> Now, as for your other questions:
>>>
>>> 1.
>>> Since money is of great concern to you, and since I'm almost certain you
>>> do not want to have to deal with the issue of swapping out any of your
>>> audio connectors to the Lightening form-factor, I strongly suggest that
>>> you purchase an iPhone 6 S, model.  The 6 S model continues to offer the
>>> 3.5mm jack, insuring that any analog audio equipment you have will work
>>> as usual.  Also, the price of the 6 S is significantly less than the 7,
>>> 8, and 10 series devices.
>>>
>>> As far as I know, the only place from which you can purchase a new 6 S
>>> series phone is from Apple, be it online or at an Apple store.
>>>
>>> 2.
>>> You ask:
>>> "When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices,
>>> my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones?  Will I
>>> need to replace these.?
>>>
>>> Answer:
>>> All things being equal, you will probably need to re-pair your Bluetooth
>>> devices.  Will you need to replace them?  I should think not.
>>>
>>> As for your charger, the answer is, No, you will not have to replace it
>>> as all Apple phones, currently being sold, as new, use the Lightening
>>> port charging system.
>>>
>>> Bill, I realize that upgrading to a new phone can be very scary and I
>>> don't blame you for hesitating to do so.  However, in all things, change
>>> is unavoidable so it's best to do it on your own terms, whenever
>>> possible.
>>>
>>> I won't kid you, it is quite possible that some of your favorite apps
>>> have not been updated to 64-bit and, thus, will not work in iOS 11.
>>> Regardless, given that your 5 S is falling apart, I’m certain that you
>>> will gain more than you lose by upgrading to a new device with a modern
>>> operating system.
>>>
>>> Okay, that's about it.
>>>
>>> Good luck, Bill, and try to have faith in yourself.  You can do this.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> which apps won't work on iOS 11
>>>
>>> How can I find 32-bit apps on my device?
>>>
>>> Discovering any old apps that haven't been updated is very simple.
>>>
>>> On your iPhone or iPad go to Settings > General > About, and then look
>>> for Applications in the list.
>>>
>>> which apps won't work on iOS 11
>>>
>>> If you don't have any applications that are 32-bit then tapping
>>> Applications will do nothing. But if you see an arrow on the right side
>>> of that section then tap on it and you'll be presented with a list of all
>>> the 32-bit apps on your device.
>>>
>>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.macworld.co.uk%2Fhow-to%2Fiosapps%2Fwhich-apps-wont-work-in-ios-11-3660434%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cad985a4d28a14c73f8d608d59aba76b4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636585048025779077&sdata=PZmMAEpPKig1oaK4DfBOkOUYyweR1iZpizgnx1zh4%2BI%3D&reserved=0
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>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Bill Outman
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 7:47 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S
>>>
>>> Hello, again list.
>>>
>>> I am concerned about the process of upgrading my 5S to a better model.
>>> It is falling apart, as I have lost the physical mute switch and the
>>> touch screen is sitting on the phone and I have to be careful not to lose
>>> it.  The case has been gradually losing pieces.  I have had it for four
>>> years, so it is really overdue for a replacement.
>>>
>>> First, I am having trouble with the iOS 11 installation cycle.  It seems
>>> to be failing due to lack of capacity, but I’m not sure if this is really
>>> the issue.  I am concerned about updating apps to accommodate this new
>>> version, and I vaguely recall hearing there is a way to tell which apps
>>> might have trouble working when I go from iOS 10 to 11.
>>>
>>> I worry about the transfer of my apps and data to a new phone, fearing I
>>> may lose somethingin the process.   I know I can back up the phone to
>>> iCloud, but am not sure if this is happening automaticallyofr if there is
>>> some step I need to take to do this just before the switch.
>>>
>>> When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth devices,
>>> my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones?  Will I
>>> need to replace these.  I also have a stand for my K-NFB reader I might
>>> need to replace, though admittedly I haven’t used it much.
>>>
>>> I am wondering what type of new iPhone I can or should get.  I bought the
>>> 5S through my local A. T. & T. store back in 2014.  It is fully paid off
>>> long since through my cell phone bill with them.  I know I could have
>>> taken a free upgrad from them at some point, but was unsure of what model
>>> I would have gotten, and I was afraid of going through the transfer
>>> process then.  Now I have to update with the phone falling apart, and
>>> don’t know what I can get and still have the same transfer fears.
>>> If I can’t get it free, I have fears about the cost of the new phone, or
>>> how much I can afford to allow the bill to increase to pay for it that
>>> way.  I am in a jam with my available credit.
>>>
>>> One other technical issue is the compatibility of my charger.   Will I
>>> have to replace it?
>>>
>>> One more issue is getting a protective case for the new iPhone.  The cost
>>> cost concerns me as this may have to be a separate purchase at another
>>> time.
>>>
>>> I would again appreciate someone helping work through this process.
>>>
>>> Bill Outman
>>> Email: wout...@earthlink.net
>>>
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