Kelly, that's understandable and that's so right. Neither one of us feel the strong need to get the newest phone or any other newest thing, as long as my phone is still working that's what I care about. I'm not into the idea of changing phones every year or every 2 years, that's not for me, but I hear of people that do that. I still use some button phones that I'll never stop using. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly Pierce" <kellyt...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S


Arlene, these are budget conscious iPhone owners. They have a phone
introduced in 2013.  If they keep this new phone for four or five
years like the 5s they now own, they will save money from the cost of
chucking an iPhone after just two years.


Kelly

On 4/7/18, Arlene <arlenes71...@earthlink.net> wrote:
We have a friend that provides transportation for us, and she prefers the
larger screen because she doesn't wear her contacts 24 7, and without them
she's just about as blind as we are. The larger screen would probably be
great for a partially sighted friend. Other wise you're correct about the 7
being less expensive and a nice size phone. In another message I observed
someone was recomending an iphone 8 because it would be more future proof in
regards to being obsolete. While that's correct, most people wouldn't have
the same phone beyond 2 years. So while the 7 is knocking on the 8's
backdoor you'd save money with buying the 7, and would have a simular good
experience. If you could afford the 8, go ahead and buy it.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 12:06 PM
  Subject: RE: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S


  Hi Arlene,



  Interesting that you recommend the SE and the 7 Plus, a huge step up in
size. I think unless somebody specifically wants a Plus size phone the
regular iPhone 7 would be a better choice and also less expensive.



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
Arlene
  Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 8:54 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S



  Bill, as relatively new iphone users, we chose the se phones, we like it
for it's size, it's very smooth operating experience when using the phone
and it will have your standard audio jack. We can definitely recomend the
se. We believe this would be a great choice. However, if you wanted to step out a little our other recomendation at this time would be the 7 plus. With
the 7 plus I believe you get an adaptor so you would have your audio
physically connected to your phone. I've heard the bluetooth has gotten
better when it comes to audio. Anyway the 7 plus is a nice phone, just a
little more money. Good luck, Bill with all this information that you
received from richard, mark, us and anyone else that's answered these
questions for you since I'm a bit behind on messages, of which it will be
interesting to read.



  Arlene and Wayne



    ----- Original Message -----

    From: Richard Turner

    To: viphone@googlegroups.com

    Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 7:19 AM

    Subject: Re: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S





    Bill, Mark covered most points very well.

    I would point out that the iPhone SE is the same size as the 5s and is
slightly newer than the 6s, if that makes any difference for you.

    Richard





    (Sent from the iPod Touch 6)


    On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:00 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:

      Hello Bill,

You ask questions that some may be reluctant to answer for the simple
fact that each person's circumstances are unique.

      Be that as it may, I will offer some suggestions in order to assist
you.  Please keep in mind that this is only my opinion.

As for determining how to tell which apps will not function in iOS 11,
I will place the steps and a link to the article below my signature.

      1.
      To manually backup your device to iCloud, from the Settings menu,
select your name.

      2.
      Select iCloud.

      3.
      Select and explore the Backup area.

      Now, as for your other questions:

      1.
      Since money is of great concern to you, and since I'm almost certain
you do not want to have to deal with the issue of swapping out any of your
audio connectors to the Lightening form-factor, I strongly suggest that you
purchase an iPhone 6 S, model.  The 6 S model continues to offer the 3.5mm
jack, insuring that any analog audio equipment you have will work as usual.
Also, the price of the 6 S is significantly less than the 7, 8, and 10
series devices.

As far as I know, the only place from which you can purchase a new 6 S
series phone is from Apple, be it online or at an Apple store.

      2.
      You ask:
      "When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth
devices, my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will
I need to replace these.?

      Answer:
      All things being equal, you will probably need to re-pair your
Bluetooth devices.  Will you need to replace them?  I should think not.

      As for your charger, the answer is, No, you will not have to replace
it as all Apple phones, currently being sold, as new, use the Lightening
port charging system.

Bill, I realize that upgrading to a new phone can be very scary and I don't blame you for hesitating to do so. However, in all things, change is
unavoidable so it's best to do it on your own terms, whenever possible.

I won't kid you, it is quite possible that some of your favorite apps
have not been updated to 64-bit and, thus, will not work in iOS 11.
Regardless, given that your 5 S is falling apart, I’m certain that you will gain more than you lose by upgrading to a new device with a modern operating
system.

      Okay, that's about it.

Good luck, Bill, and try to have faith in yourself. You can do this.

      Sincerely,

      Mark

      which apps won't work on iOS 11

      How can I find 32-bit apps on my device?

      Discovering any old apps that haven't been updated is very simple.

On your iPhone or iPad go to Settings > General > About, and then look
for Applications in the list.

      which apps won't work on iOS 11

      If you don't have any applications that are 32-bit then tapping
Applications will do nothing. But if you see an arrow on the right side of
that section then tap on it and you'll be presented with a list of all the
32-bit apps on your device.


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      From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Bill Outman
      Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 7:47 PM
      To: viphone@googlegroups.com
      Subject: Upgrade process from iPhone 5S

      Hello, again list.

I am concerned about the process of upgrading my 5S to a better model. It is falling apart, as I have lost the physical mute switch and the touch screen is sitting on the phone and I have to be careful not to lose it. The case has been gradually losing pieces. I have had it for four years, so it
is really overdue for a replacement.

      First, I am having trouble with the iOS 11 installation cycle.  It
seems to be failing due to lack of capacity, but I’m not sure if this is
really the issue.  I am concerned about updating apps to accommodate this
new version, and I vaguely recall hearing there is a way to tell which apps
might have trouble working when I go from iOS 10 to 11.

I worry about the transfer of my apps and data to a new phone, fearing
I may lose somethingin the process.   I know I can back up the phone to
iCloud, but am not sure if this is happening automaticallyofr if there is
some step I need to take to do this just before the switch.

      When I get the new phone, will I need to reconnect my bluetooth
devices, my keyboard, a tile I have on my key ring, and my headphones? Will
I need to replace these.  I also have a stand for my K-NFB reader I might
need to replace, though admittedly I haven’t used it much.

I am wondering what type of new iPhone I can or should get. I bought the 5S through my local A. T. & T. store back in 2014. It is fully paid off long since through my cell phone bill with them. I know I could have taken a free upgrad from them at some point, but was unsure of what model I would
have gotten, and I was afraid of going through the transfer process then.
Now I have to update with the phone falling apart, and don’t know what I can
get and still have the same transfer fears.
If I can’t get it free, I have fears about the cost of the new phone,
or how much I can afford to allow the bill to increase to pay for it that
way.  I am in a jam with my available credit.

One other technical issue is the compatibility of my charger. Will I
have to replace it?

      One more issue is getting a protective case for the new iPhone.  The
cost cost concerns me as this may have to be a separate purchase at another
time.

      I would again appreciate someone helping work through this process.

      Bill Outman
      Email: wout...@earthlink.net


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