You know, Mike, the fact that you can use the attention feature is wonderful. 
But one person‘s experience does not mean it will be the same for everyone. I 
know people who can’t use the attention feature. So don’t generalize. We are 
all going to be stuck with this eventually. But making light of a very real 
security risk for those who cannot successfully use this feature is not OK.
Mary


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> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:25 PM, Michael Maslo <michaelmasl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello list,
> 
> I am a proud owner of the iphone x and have had it since it came out. I 
> personally find the facial id more secure and faster than the touch id ever 
> was. Also who ever said that a blind person could not use attention as part 
> of the facial id never has tried it. I use it all the time without issues.  
> Also for the person who said they like the touch id easier for the could 
> unlock their phone while it was on desk or in their lap, I could do the very 
> same thing as you do. Never have issues with it. The gestures used are super 
> easy and now that I have switched from the touch id,. I would never go back. 
> I have no intent to get a new phone since 30 minutes better battery life does 
> not make it worth operating it. Maybe next year. I saw the largest phone and 
> I find it way to bid. I would not want to Barry a iPad as a phone.
> 
> My opinion only. Have a great day.  
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Michael maslo
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 20:02, kitty hevener <kheve...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>> me too.  Just hope will be able to use it for a few years.  smile!!
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Mike Capelle
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> not happy at all, love my SE.
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Mike Arrigo
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 6:51 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple's new iphones
>> 
>> It looks like Apple is done with the home button for good, the 3 new iphones
>> that Apple announced are based on the new iphone X form factor, the Iphone
>> XS replaces the Iphone X from last year, the Iphone XS max sounds like it's
>> the plus version with a larger screen, and the Iphone XR is the cheaper
>> version. The iphone 7 and 8 will remain as Apple's budget iphone models and
>> the Iphone SE has been discontinued. This means that Apple no longer sells
>> any phones with a small form factor now or that have a headphone jack. I got
>> an iphone 8 and iphone SE earlier this year so have no interest in getting
>> any of these new ones at this point, and I'm just not ready to give up the
>> home button yet either.
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