i was not referring to you Sieghard. Just the folks who blast someone without 
any helpful suggestions. Of course, pointing out the inappropriate language 
while providing possible solutions is great.
Not everyone is that mature.
PS, but for 1 vote, the United States official language would have indeed been 
German.
Richard



"The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing at the right 
place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment." - Dorothy 
Nevill



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On Sep 18, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Andrew <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I rarely chime in on conversations like this. However, this happens with EVERY 
update. Someone has a negative experience with the new IOS update.
I know Mario. He's good people folks.
We pay ALOT for these devices Right? Shouldn't we expect the best out of Apple?
Not everybodies device is equal to anothers. Immature indeed.. Really?
Andrew

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As a result I never read any of his messages they are childish and immature

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

On Sep 18, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Well quoted, Richard.
I don't think there is anything wrong in replying with suggestions and to maybe 
include an opinion that a post using offensive language or blanket statements 
like "Apple is sh**", but often posts like Mario's result in a lot of messages 
where people simply criticize the original poster for his choice of language 
which may or may not have been the result of a bad morning, but while Mario may 
be generally speaking negative about Apple, he doesn't really have a history of 
using offensive langiuage and in that case we should all give him a break to 
see if he can resolve his issues with iOS 12. I don't think at this point he is 
quite as extreme as another list member once was and he is not sending 
offensive replies as Todd P who is now banned from this list used to do. This 
by the way, is my final post in this thread.

Regards,
Sieghard

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