Patti, this is so terribly disappointing to hear about your cable company. Thank you, for telling us about your experience with tivo, and about roku. Considering the situation with your cable I'm glad the tivo is working well enough. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Johnson" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 4:48 AM
Subject: Re: FIOS TV


I have the TiVo and truly love it, it does everything, unless your
cable provider starts to mess up, which mine frequently will do if
they're  trying to make any changes.
My provider thinks they can choose what is accessible, so is not
providing a settop box as of now.  They want us to use the roku which
is at best sluggish, not nearly as accessible as they think it is; and
at worst, just not acceptable, but to their way of thinking it's
accessible and no one has told them what that means, they choose what
they think it means.
I know the tivos are pricey, depending on what you get I suppose, and
I have heard some of the boxes can break down, but if you have one
that works it's wonderful, I don't regret purchasing one at all.
I am jus disappointed my provider has the attitude it does about what
accessibility really means, in the way of providing a box.
Patti

On 10/16/18, Arlene <[email protected]> wrote:
For the person that was asking about verizon, not knowing if you're in an
area that is served by cox, comcast and or dish, here's some information to

consider, of which we've had both experience with cox and dish. Cox and
comcasts's accessibility is very good, because both companies use a x2 set top box. The voice is pleasant. You have a 1 button direct access therefore

you can turn the voice on and off as needed. Since you don't have to relie on a onscreen keyboard there's no problem or issue in turning to any channel

you want, just punch it up on the remote. With cox you can get all the
information you need this information about what I'm going to tell you about

the information that you could hear is based on a cox subscription, however

comcast should be close to the same. That is, when you press the information

when you're watching a show or you tune to a channel, it will tell you
information such as the name of the show, and how much time is left on the show. It seems that it depends on the show, but for some shows it will give

you the show name and a brief description of the show. Dish is a very
simular experience, though the speech is kind of crummy, reminding us of
xp's narrator, but even worse. The male voice will give you that same
information such as the name of the show and a brief description of the
episode, and depending on the   show the date of the episode. We ended up
quitting dish for 2 reasons, they could never get the tuner in the hopper to

work correctly. The second reason is that with the xm radio channels there were random dropouts in the audio, lasting anywhere from 1 second to about 3

minutes, the average being about 5 to 10 seconds. After working on this with

them after 3 years, these issues  were never resolved. This is what I
believe, they could have solved the problems but there was no interest on
their part to do so. If our cable wwasn't as good of an experience as it is

for us currently, we would have the cord completely cut because beleive me,

there's no shortage of alternative entertaiment options. Note, this is just

a thought for those of you, that are having disappointing accessiibility
issues, if you're provider offers a program card for tvo, it might be
something worth looking into. We don't know if all the tvo boxes are all
accessible but we do know of a few people that have certain models that are

good when it comes to accessibility. Now for the apps, the dish app, dish
anywhere app is  an okay app. The sling app, we didn't like it. The sling
app you could get free if you have the hopper from dish, or you could buy
the sling tv stick and use the app. Using with the hopper we found it kind
of clunky and didn't always give the information you wanted out of it.
There's 2 cox apps, the cox connect app has access simular to the cox web page about billing and other details, and the contore app is where you could

watch the tv channels, schedule recordings and other things, both these apps

are accessible.

Arlene and Wayne



----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Matzura" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: FIOS TV


I've been a Fios customer since September, 2010. The accessibility
features in the current set-top boxes is relatively new--about two years
now, I think. On the whole, it's very accessible, just not 100% so.


Depending on which box you get, and there are at least two, possibly three

different ones, the position in the menu tree for turning accessibility on

differs, but the basic concept is the same. You have to press the remote's

MENU button, navigate to Settings, then to Accessibility,and the rest
should be intuitive when you get to that branch of the menu tree. In fact,

some boxes will tell you when you get to the accessibility option without

having to explicitly turn it on. I think this is one of the stupidest
things ever, since there is no documented way of getting to that option to

begin with, so what are you supposed to do, hunt around for it? So you'll

definitely need assistance to turn it on. Verizon can provide you that
assistance over the phone by looking up which box you have, and telling
you which buttons to pres. If you follow their directions to the letter,
it will work.


Now, what you get when you turn accessibility on isn't perfect. For
instance, the search option doesn't talk at all, but browsing the
electronic program guide, or EPG, does. None of the help screens speak.
Also, pressing the big round INFO button doesn't give details of what
you're watching, only the summary screen is spoken. That is, it speaks the

name of the show, season number, episode number and name, but no details,

such as plot, stars, etc. On the music channels, you only get to hear the

channel name, not the name of the playing track. On most music channels,
there is an on-screen scroll of information about either the currently
playing artist, or the channel's genre, which also is not voiced.


ON the whole, it's quite useful and usable, just not to the detailed level

some might want.

As for the phone or computer application, I also give that less than high

marks. Everything's there--descriptions, ability to browse and use the
EPG, direct channel tuning, all that--but the layout is anything but
optimal, and the on-screen keyboard for channel selection by number has a

horrid timeout problem, which means no matter how fast you are with a
phone and your phone's screen reader, you'll never be fast enough to type

more than two digits of a channel number before the software thinks you're

done and tunes your set-top box to that two-digit channel number. Example:

CoziTV is Fios channel 460. If I type 4, then 6, while I'm finding the 0
and pressing it, the timeout has already stopped taking input from the
on-screen keyboard, so my box gets set to channel 46. Another problem is
that the on-screen keyboard is sometimes overlaid with part of the rest of

the controls and options, so it's sometimes not possible to display the
whole keypad, making even attempting to select a channel by number most
difficult, if not altogether impossible. Of course, users that don't
require a screen reader can simply push the rest of the stuff out of the
way, revealing the full keyboard. I'm not sure whether a Bluetooth
keyboard would or could solve this problem, and to be fair, there may have

been updates to the application since last I tried it, which was probably

about four years ago, that may have solved this and other accessibility
problems.

Hope this helps.

On 10/16/2018 5:19 AM, Larry Smith wrote:
Is there anyone on this list using verizon FIOS TV set top box? If so, is

it accessible using the remote control? Also, can the set-top-box and TV

content be access using the mobile app? I currently have directv. I am
very unhappy with them! Thanks


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