For the record, the xs max gives me great battery life. I have used it up to 30 hours before having to charge it. I use it for everything. Email, texting, push notifications, streaming music and youtube, phone calls, among shopping on e-bay and amazon. I keep my screen brightness on 0, so that may have a little bit to do with why my battery lasts so long, but other than that, it has not disappointed me at all. Personally, the only reason I got the xs max, is cause it was buy one, get 750 bucks off another, so I jumped at that, plus I got almost 600 bucks for when selling the x, so I was pretty much halfway paid for when I walked threw the door. My groups Beta tester for apple products? come help squash the bugs: https://groups.io/g/public-beta-users Have a braille display? Come teach and learn with others https://groups.io/g/braille-display-users User of IOS, TVOS, MacOS, and watchOS? That’s all we discuss in only apple talk and support. Beginners, experienced and medium range users, come subscribe here. [email protected] Oats is looking forward to having you!
> On Oct 31, 2018, at 11:33 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > > I agree with Cristobal, some of these tech writers I guess have to write > something even if it’s mostly complete nonsense. He writes about upgrading > from an iPhone X to an XR for example, now why in the world would anybody > want to do this? He mentions things like 3D Touch, aluminum vs stainless > steel, the less hard Gorilla glass on the back vs the newer and harder glass > on both front and back on the XS and XS Max. I mean Daa, it costs $250 less > so what do you expect? If it had all the same stuff then what’s the point? > > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mary > Otten > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 4:11 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: 10 ways the iPhone XR is worse than the iPhone XS [ > > I bought the XR, because pretty much everything that isn’t available there is > visual. 3D Touch is one exception, but since I almost never use it, it just > wasn’t a big thing. So far, no regrets. I will take the better battery life > any day, since I use my phone for so many things. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 31, 2018, at 4:04 PM, Andy Baracco <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Well, you get what you pay for, and for me, the compromises, which are mostly > visual, wouldn't deter me from buying the XR. > > Andy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cristobal Muñoz <mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:33 PM > Subject: RE: 10 ways the iPhone XR is worse than the iPhone XS [ > > This almost feels like clickbait. I mean, some of these points really feel > like straw grasping. *gasp* You might need to buy a third party case? The > horror. Who really is upgrading from an X to an XR?Slippery band? Seriously? > > Cristóbal > > From: 'Maria Reyes' via VIPhone <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:27 PM > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: 10 ways the iPhone XR is worse than the iPhone XS [ > > I’ve been tempted to get the XR but I don’t think I’m upgrading. > > On Oct 31, 2018, at 4:11 PM, 'Kliphton Miller' via VIPhone > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Jeff Benjamin <https://9to5mac.com/author/bnjmorg/> > <~WRD154.jpg> > In our hands-on iPhone XR top features > <https://9to5mac.com/2018/10/27/top-iphone-xr-features-best-bang-for-the-buck-video/>post, > we discussed twenty of the best features found on Apple’s budget-minded > iPhone. The iPhone XR, as it turns out, is a great phone that I think anyone > looking to upgrade from pre-iPhone X devices should consider. It features the > same A12 processor as the latest iPhone XS, the same enhanced wide angle > camera, and comes with high-end niceties like an all-screen display and Face > ID. > The iPhone XR is a compelling new hardware release for Apple, and it starts > at $749, which is much less than the $999 entry-level price of the flagship > iPhone XS. Yet, the iPhone XR isn’t perfect. Compromises needed to be made to > meet such a price point, and some of those compromises are relatively > glaring. Watch our hands-on video as we consider some of the worst iPhone XR > features. > LCD screen > > The LCD has its benefits. First and foremost, it’s significantly cheaper than > the OLED screen found in the iPhone XS. It’s also brighter, and yields better > battery life overall. If you’re coming from a device like the iPhone 7 or > iPhone 8, then you probably won’t care about the downsides of the iPhone XR’s > LCD screen. On the other hand, if you’re coming from an iPhone X, the display > differences are noticeable, especially in certain situations. > For starters, LCD screens are backlit, and that can result in noticeable > backlight bleed, especially while in dark environments. Secondly, because of > the backlight, black levels aren’t as good as the OLED screen in the iPhone X > or iPhone XS, especially when viewing the device off axis. > And although the iPhone XR display supports wide color and colors look > relatively good, it’s missing the color “pop” that you find on the Super > Retina display of the OLED models. The XR has a fine LCD screen, but it’s > simply not as appealing to the eye as the displays found on the iPhone X and > XS. > Video walkthrough > > > > Subscribe to 9to5Mac on YouTube for more videos > <https://www.youtube.com/c/9to5mac?sub_confirmation=1> > 326 ppi Retina display > > The iPhone XR, with its 326 ppi is technically a Retina display, but > considering the iPhone 4 featured the same ppi, it meets the definition in > the earliest sense of the marketing term. > <326-PPI-Retina-Display.jpg> > Newer iPhones feature significantly denser displays from a resolution > standpoint — the iPhone XS ships with a 2436‑by-1125‑pixel resolution display > at 458 ppi, for instance — while the iPhone XR stands at a relatively > pedestrian 1792-by-828 within a slightly larger display area. > No 3D Touch > > 3D Touch is one of the most underrated iPhone features, and continues to fly > under the radar as far as its usefulness is concerned. A lot of people with > 3D Touch-enabled iPhones don’t even recognize that the feature is available, > which is unfortunate given its usefulness. With this in mind, Apple probably > didn’t have to think long about dropping the feature to save money on the > iPhone XR. > <No-3D-Touch-iPhone-XR.jpg> > But if you’re like me, a big fan of 3D Touch, then the omission is a big > loss. It means that you no longer have the ability to use Quick Action > Shortcuts from the Home screen app icons, potentially slowing down your > workflow. It also means no live wallpaper, and no peek and pop actions within > supported apps. > Of course, Apple implemented a new Haptic Touch feature to fill in for 3D > Touch in certain key areas, such as with the Lock screen camera and > flashlight shortcuts, but Haptic Touch is the very definition of a poor man’s > 3D Touch. > Noticeably thicker > > When I first held the iPhone XR I immediately commented on its thickness — > it’s a fairly thick phone by Apple standards, and the thickest iOS device the > company currently produces. At 8.3 mm, it feels noticeable thicker than the > iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max, which are both 7.7 mm thick. If you’re coming > from the iPhone 7 or 8, which are only 7.1 mm and 7.3 mm thick respectively, > the difference is even more noticeable. > <image001.jpg> > Bezels > > One of the most obvious differences between the iPhone XR and the iPhone XS > are the bezels surrounding the edge of the display. The XR has noticeably > thicker bezels than the iPhone XS, measuring approximately 4mm wide. The > iPhone XS features slimmer bezels that are approximately 2mm. Bezels have no > impact on overall usability, but it makes for a sleeker iPhone XS design. > <image002.jpg> > No dual camera > > The iPhone XR lacks the dual camera setup of the flagship iPhone XS, which > means you don’t get all of the extra bells and whistles that are made > possible as a result. Missing features include 2x zoom, which uses the > telephoto lens. You still get digital zoom, but it’s not as desirable as real > zoom using the secondary glass found on dual camera iPhones. > <iPhone-XR-No-Optical-Zoom.jpg> > Other missing features include the inability to use Portrait mode with > non-human subjects, including pets, although the third-party camera app > Halide attempts to address this issue > <https://9to5mac.com/2018/10/29/halide-iphone-xr-1-11-update/>. You’ll also > have to do without the stage lighting features found in Portrait mode on > higher end phones, but in my opinion that’s not a huge loss. > Rear glass isn’t as durable > > One of the notable features of the iPhone XS is that it comes with more > durable glass on both the front and the back of the device. The iPhone XR > comes with the same extra-durable glass, but it’s only found on the front of > your device. > <iPhone-XR-Rear-Glass.jpg> > Slippery aluminum band > > The stainless steel bands on the iPhone X and iPhone XS provide more than > just a pretty exterior. Stainless steel is grippier than the anodized > aluminum bands the wrap around the exterior of the iPhone XR, which are more > prone to accidentally slipping out of the hand in my experience. > <iPhone-XR-slippery.jpg> > No first party cases…yet > > And that’s a bad thing, because there are no first party cases available. > Although there’s are indications that Apple might soon launch its own clear > case for the iPhone XR > <https://9to5mac.com/2018/10/12/iphone-xr-apple-clear-case/> to accentuate > the device’s variety of color options, no such case is available as of this > writing. In fact, there were a total of zero first party cases available for > the iPhone XR at launch. If you want an iPhone XR case > <https://amzn.to/2JtXv5D>, you’ll need to consider third party options for > the time being. > <image003.jpg> > Less water resistance > > With the release of the iPhone XS, Apple stepped up its water resistance for > its smartphones with an IP68 rating (maximum depth of 2 meters up to 30 > minutes). The prior iPhone X, and the just-released iPhone XR, feature IP67 > ratings (maximum depth of 1 meter up to 30 minutes), which still provide a > measure of protection, but doesn’t instill as much confidence as the IP68 > rating. > <iPhone-XR-IP67.jpg> > 9to5Mac’s Take > > This list of items is by no means an attempt to disparage the iPhone XR or > those who decide to purchase it. In fact, as I noted in my top features post > <https://9to5mac.com/2018/10/27/top-iphone-xr-features-best-bang-for-the-buck-video/>, > the iPhone XR is a great buy, and well worth considering if you’re upgrading > from an older iPhone. 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