Of course, I completely agree, but that doesn't mean that for those of us who have a smart phone or a smart speaker we shouldn't be able to take advantage of it.

On 4/23/19 7:07 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
You can't assume that everyone has a smart phone or speaker.  Suppose something happens to your phone or speaker.  Suppose you lose your Internet?  Using an app or smart speaker is a great convenience, but cannot be the only solution for accessibility.
Andy

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    *From:* Christopher Chaltain <mailto:[email protected]>
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ;
    Larry Lumpkin <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent:* Tuesday, April 23, 2019 4:48 PM
    *Subject:* Re: IOS apps with smart appliances

    True, but that doesn't mean that appliance manufacturers shouldn't
    let people control their appliances through an accessible app or a
    smart speaker.


    On 4/23/19 8:14 AM, Larry Lumpkin wrote:

    Offering an accessible app for an appliance does not, in my
    opinion, make that appliance accessible. The appliance needs to
    be accessible independently.

    *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On
    Behalf Of *Kimberly
    *Sent:* Tuesday, April 23, 2019 3:53 AM
    *To:* [email protected]
    *Subject:* Re: IOS apps with smart appliances

     You could but it would be less convenient.

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    On Apr 22, 2019, at 1:26 PM, Cristobal Muñoz
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        This is always my concern with such expensive items like this.

        Let me ask, would you still be able to operate it
        independently should you have issues with your WIFI network
        or some other variable that would make Alexa or an associated
        app go wonky?

        *From:* [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> *On Behalf Of *Kimberly
        *Sent:* Monday, April 22, 2019 5:21 AM
        *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Subject:* Re: IOS apps with smart appliances

        We just bought a GE range with WIFI and Alexa connectivity
        and it seems to be working pretty well for me. The model we
        have is part of the Cafe line which also has washers, driers,
        dish washers and microwaves. I have no experience with any
        appliance except the range, but so far my experience has been
        positive. I suggest starting your search with the Cafe line.
        Also feel free to reach out privately for more indepth
        information if this is something you are seriously
        considering as these appliances are rather pricey.

        Kim

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        On Apr 22, 2019, at 12:51 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            I am on a similar search but for a range (cooktop/oven).
            I gave up a couple of years ago regarding an accessible,
            connected washer/dryer and bought a Miele set which is
            all buttons as in actual buttons you can feel although
            there are still options to select on a screen, but some
            of those are things you don't really need, sometimes an
            app like Seeing AI can pick it up and for those times
            when I actually have to use it and still need more help I
            just call Aira, Be My Eyes or my Mom using Facetime. For
            the most part my wife takes care of it, it's just once a
            year or so when she goes back to the Philippines for a
            few weeks when I have to use it independently.

            I have come to realize that it does not seem like there
            is a range which will be fully accessible, I have seen
            some which have WiFi, but so far I have only ever read
            that you can only control the oven. Anyhow, I could see
            how it would also be pretty inconvenient if you cook and
            you want to quickly turn the temperature of a burner up
            or down a bit when you are busy doing other stuff , maybe
            your hands are dirty etc. This would not be a good time
            where you have to unlock your phone and fiddle around
            with an app, in such as case the only thing which would
            make sense is if you could Alexa/Google Home and give a
            quick voice command which would be carried out instantly.

            One thing I did notice on the GE website was that they
            are talking about "ADA compliance" and one of our local
            stores actually send me an email after I asked them to
            look into something with analogue controls and said that
            some companies mentioned they had braille overlays for
            the touch screen. I plan to call GE tomorrow (if they are
            open) or Tuesday and hopefully find out a bit more. Their
            ranges actually get some pretty good reviews, so I
            definitely would like to chat with them.

            I am always amazed that given the number of government
            organisations in existence as well as all the private
            advocacy groups and people that nobody has done more to
            work with the major appliance makers to find a better
            solution. I bet nowadays a lot of these appliances run
            some sort of version of Android and it might not take all
            that much to make them talk on their own.

            Best regards,
            Sieghard

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            Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 8:12 PM
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            Subject: IOS apps with smart appliances

            Hello:

            Has anyone used or tested the accessibility of the LG,
            Samsung or GE apps with WIFI enabled washer and driers?
            We are in the market to purchasing a new washer and drier
            and hoping to find something that is accessible with
            using the Apps given that most of the washers and driers
            these days have touch screens.

            Thank you,



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