Hi richard,
Your experience is very interesting. I freely admit that I often get not very 
helpful responses from Siri. But if anything, Alexa is worse. I have an echo 
device, and it’s so bad at giving me general answers to questions I ask that 
I’ve pretty much given up using it except for weather forecast, some news, 
timers, etc. Google assistant wins hands-down in the USful answers department, 
at least for me.


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> On May 26, 2019, at 9:35 AM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> I can see I need to qualify my statement.
> It works quite well without any kind of Google Speaker and for skills, I 
> haven't gone looking for them as I simply use it when Siri is useless, which 
> happens more than it used to.
> I can ask the same question of Alexa as Siri and get a very useful answer 
> from Alexa and either nothing, or useless information from Siri.
> Not all the time mind you, but enough that it is nice to have both available.
> 
> Richard
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 9:26 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Alexa accessibility and our new connected range - was: Alexa app for 
> iPhone
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> I am surprised you say it works quite well. I would say it works, but some 
> things like for example looking for skills I would say could be way more 
> accessible. We just received our GE Café range which has Wi-Fi connectivity 
> and you can control the ovens (the model we bought has a smaller upper oven 
> and a larger lower oven) via the GE Kitchen app and also via Alexa and Google 
> Home with voice commands. I was trying to find the Alexa skill for this and 
> it seems that Voiceover only reads the skills by virtue of it's image 
> recognition because it kept saying "possible text" and then the name of the 
> skill.
> In any case, GE has it's own voice control called "Geneva" and when I Googled 
> how to set this up I found instructions about how to set it up for the Google 
> Assistant and it was a breeze, in fact, there was a button on the website 
> where it said I could send it to a device, one of the device groups was iOS 
> and by some sort of magic when I selected this a notification popped up on my 
> iPhone to add it to Google Assistant. When I tapped it the Google Assistant 
> app opened and it was super easy from there. I still haven't figured out how 
> to set it u p in Alexa, if I search for "Geneva" I am told it found no such 
> skill.
> Anyways, I can now ask our Google Home Mini that I want to "Talk to Geneva 
> Home", then after a second the Geneva voice kicks in and asks me what I want 
> to do. I can ask it, for example, to preheat the upper oven to 350 Fahrenheit 
> and it does so without fuss. The Ge Kitchen app is also accessible although 
> it also could use definite improvements, now that I am getting used to it 
> it's fairly easy, but for one thing it often reads stuff that visually is not 
> at all present on the screen and tapping on these things does nothing so it's 
> good to have some sighted assistance at first until you know what is there 
> and what is not. I certainly plan to write to GE and ask them to make this 
> more accessible, the app itself gets quite poor ratings on the app store 
> although for the most part it seems to do what it advertises. In any case, I 
> can control the oven with either the app or with voice control and that is 
> what is important to me since the only other way is by touch screen, the 
> cooktop has traditional stainless steel knobs and the main challenge here is 
> to figure out where exactly to place your pot or frying pan or whatever since 
> this is an induction cook top which is perfectly smooth and the cooktop 
> itself does not get warm so you can't even turn it on a bit and feel where 
> it's getting warm to line up the pot. The advantage of course is also that 
> it's super efficient, actually amazing how fast it boils a pot with say 2 
> litres of water which takes about half the time than on a traditional 
> electric range and it's even 30% or 40% faster than a gas range.
> Also, once you remove a pot with, for example, boiling water, the cooktop is 
> of course hot from having the hot pot sitting on it, but it's actually not so 
> hot where you would burn yourself if you just touched it briefly unlike on a 
> traditional cooktop element or even a smooth top range which when it's hot 
> would burn you instantly. This also means should something boil over it is 
> much less likely to get burned onto the cooktop itself. So far we really love 
> this new investment.
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 8:38 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Alexa app for iPhone
> 
> Yes, the Amazon Alexa app works quite well on the iPhone.
> Richard
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jen .
> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 8:37 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Alexa app for iPhone
> 
> Hi,
> As suggested by someone on list they said when looking for games accessible 
> from the smart speakers on an iPhone to use the Amazon Music app which I did 
> and it said to use the Alexa app so I ask is there an Alexa app for the 
> iPhone.
> Thanks as I really know nothing about this stuff since I have a Google home 
> mini.
> Jen
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