I agree with Mary, but it is little surprise that Google probably delivers the 
best answers to the most questions given that their business is entirely 
information and they do, after all, have probably the best and most integrated 
access to Google as a search engine. It is truly amazing how accurately and to 
the point I can ask my Google Home Mini for the phone number of a business and 
get exactly the correct answer or even better, how I can simply ask it to call 
said business. When it comes to calls the call quality of the Google Home Mini 
beats that of my Alexa speakers handsdown and both are on very high-speed and 
low-latency fiber networks. I love Alexa for the access to Audible, but for 
almost everything else we use our Google Home Mini speakers.


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 9:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Alexa accessibility and our new connected range - was: Alexa app 
for iPhone

Hi richard,
Your experience is very interesting. I freely admit that I often get not very 
helpful responses from Siri. But if anything, Alexa is worse. I have an echo 
device, and it’s so bad at giving me general answers to questions I ask that 
I’ve pretty much given up using it except for weather forecast, some news, 
timers, etc. Google assistant wins hands-down in the USful answers department, 
at least for me.


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 26, 2019, at 9:35 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I can see I need to qualify my statement.
> It works quite well without any kind of Google Speaker and for skills, I 
> haven't gone looking for them as I simply use it when Siri is useless, which 
> happens more than it used to.
> I can ask the same question of Alexa as Siri and get a very useful answer 
> from Alexa and either nothing, or useless information from Siri.
> Not all the time mind you, but enough that it is nice to have both available.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to 
> the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of flying.  There is an art, 
> it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how 
> to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, 
> The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 9:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Alexa accessibility and our new connected range - was: Alexa 
> app for iPhone
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> I am surprised you say it works quite well. I would say it works, but some 
> things like for example looking for skills I would say could be way more 
> accessible. We just received our GE Café range which has Wi-Fi connectivity 
> and you can control the ovens (the model we bought has a smaller upper oven 
> and a larger lower oven) via the GE Kitchen app and also via Alexa and Google 
> Home with voice commands. I was trying to find the Alexa skill for this and 
> it seems that Voiceover only reads the skills by virtue of it's image 
> recognition because it kept saying "possible text" and then the name of the 
> skill.
> In any case, GE has it's own voice control called "Geneva" and when I Googled 
> how to set this up I found instructions about how to set it up for the Google 
> Assistant and it was a breeze, in fact, there was a button on the website 
> where it said I could send it to a device, one of the device groups was iOS 
> and by some sort of magic when I selected this a notification popped up on my 
> iPhone to add it to Google Assistant. When I tapped it the Google Assistant 
> app opened and it was super easy from there. I still haven't figured out how 
> to set it u p in Alexa, if I search for "Geneva" I am told it found no such 
> skill.
> Anyways, I can now ask our Google Home Mini that I want to "Talk to Geneva 
> Home", then after a second the Geneva voice kicks in and asks me what I want 
> to do. I can ask it, for example, to preheat the upper oven to 350 Fahrenheit 
> and it does so without fuss. The Ge Kitchen app is also accessible although 
> it also could use definite improvements, now that I am getting used to it 
> it's fairly easy, but for one thing it often reads stuff that visually is not 
> at all present on the screen and tapping on these things does nothing so it's 
> good to have some sighted assistance at first until you know what is there 
> and what is not. I certainly plan to write to GE and ask them to make this 
> more accessible, the app itself gets quite poor ratings on the app store 
> although for the most part it seems to do what it advertises. In any case, I 
> can control the oven with either the app or with voice control and that is 
> what is important to me since the only other way is by touch screen, the 
> cooktop has traditional stainless steel knobs and the main challenge here is 
> to figure out where exactly to place your pot or frying pan or whatever since 
> this is an induction cook top which is perfectly smooth and the cooktop 
> itself does not get warm so you can't even turn it on a bit and feel where 
> it's getting warm to line up the pot. The advantage of course is also that 
> it's super efficient, actually amazing how fast it boils a pot with say 2 
> litres of water which takes about half the time than on a traditional 
> electric range and it's even 30% or 40% faster than a gas range.
> Also, once you remove a pot with, for example, boiling water, the cooktop is 
> of course hot from having the hot pot sitting on it, but it's actually not so 
> hot where you would burn yourself if you just touched it briefly unlike on a 
> traditional cooktop element or even a smooth top range which when it's hot 
> would burn you instantly. This also means should something boil over it is 
> much less likely to get burned onto the cooktop itself. So far we really love 
> this new investment.
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 8:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Alexa app for iPhone
> 
> Yes, the Amazon Alexa app works quite well on the iPhone.
> Richard
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jen .
> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 8:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Alexa app for iPhone
> 
> Hi,
> As suggested by someone on list they said when looking for games accessible 
> from the smart speakers on an iPhone to use the Amazon Music app which I did 
> and it said to use the Alexa app so I ask is there an Alexa app for the 
> iPhone.
> Thanks as I really know nothing about this stuff since I have a Google home 
> mini.
> Jen
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