I always thought I'd never want anything smaller than 32 cells. Then I got a U2 Mini, 18 cells, and now I wouldn't want anything larger than 20.
It is annoying to have to refresh the line so often, since I'm rather obsessive, I've created my own shorthand system into which I translate my books. But even without that, it ends up being a better reading experience on the shorter display line. You don't have to swing the hand as far. One study from France confirmed that finding; I reported on it in Tidbits a few years ago. For new readers, I believe electronic braille will be easier to feel and read than braille on paper. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 4:46 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Using Small Braille Display Question, was Re: Braille for seniors?! I have never used a braille display, so I hope this question is not too silly. But for those who have one of the smaller displays, what do you use it to do? The only reason I would invest in a braille display of any kind would be to read books and magazines from BARD and Bookshare. But I would think it would become really tedious to read a book with a less than 20-cell display, being only able to read three or four words at most, then having to have it refresh to read a few more words. Those whom I have asked say the main value in these small displays is in their ability to write braille, or maybe to check the spelling of a word. But I surely can buy a bunch of bluetooth keyboards for the price of even the cheapest small braille display, or I can use Apple Braille Screen input, as I am doing to write this message. And, I already know how to get VoiceOver to spell that word. If I ever were to get a display, I think it would be at least 32 cells, preferably 40, which is the length of a line in a braille book. Those whom I know and have asked say that they rarely use even their large displays to read books, paper braille is much more satisfactory. I definitely believe there may be something about this subject that I don't know. So, thanks for any enlightenment. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone On Jun 29, 2019, at 2:31 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: The thing about Hadley is that they teach all over the world. Best regards, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of sherrywells1...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 9:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Braille for seniors?! Hello karuna, Sounds like you already have a good start! I don't think there are any hard & fast rules about age & learning. It all depends on the person. And if you speak more than one language, I think you already have an ability to learning a new one. Braille isn't exactly a new language but I think some of the same learning skills apply. I learned Braille as an adult in my 40s. I found it was like learning to type sort of, lots of practice. And although I can read Braille now, I am not fast enough that I would want to try a book. I can get by with menus & other things I need to read. If you have a local vocational rehab, you might be able to learn it from someone there. If not, maybe they can at least suggest somewhere where you could get instruction. You might also just google where to learn Braille or something like that to see what shows up. I think you could teach yourself if you could find a good source to learn from. And, again, you really are already learning it via your phone! Good luck, Sherry Wells -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of karuna Chopra Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 1:14 AM To: ViPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Braille for seniors?! Is it possible for someone over the age of 65 to learn braille? Exploring the accessibility features of my new iPhone, I chanced upon the Braille entry option on the rotor. I tried using it and was amazed at how quickly I could start typing in Braille! It was also fun and fast! Therefore my question-can someone over the age of 65 learn to read Braille? I know that with practice I could learn to type in Braille. But reading braille?? Learning to interpret those raised dots into alphabets at a reasonably fast speed! Is it possible for me? If yes, how should I go about doing it? Should I be buying a refreshable Braille display? Help, guidance or any indication about this would be wonderful! K P.S. I am actually many years over 65! But ladies are not supposed to give their age :-) -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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