Hi,
Lovely to see you here.  I tried the first with him watching but it didn’t go 
so well. II found him a video for beginners with iPhone X so hopefully that’ll 
help for now but yes such a list for various operating systems would help not 
only with assisting people we know but also with dialoging with tech support or 
app developers and the like.  I would certainly appreciate it.
Take good care.
Robin


From: 'Marcio' via VIPhone 
Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 12:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Query about iOS icons

Robin,

Wow, this would be wonderful if this list could be made. After this we could 
even expand it to Windows icons, Mac icons and so on.

Meanwhile, two suggestions:
Whenever you can, perform slowly the necessary steps with VoiceOver and let the 
person look out for what you're doing. This way they will see exactly what they 
should do because even though you're working with VoiceOver, visually it will 
be the same.

Another suggestion, now regarding the list, we could start by adding icons that 
we already know from googling these stuff. For example, usually, the "Gear" 
icon will be the Settings button. Likewise the "Hamburger" or the "Three dots" 
icon will be the "More options" button. And the list goes on :)

Cheers, 
Marcio 
AKA Starboy


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Robin Frost wrote:

  Hi,
  Today I ran into a situation which highlighted for me the need for a resource 
I and I’m certain others could benefit from.  I was with a sighted friend and 
someone was helping them with their phone and was explaining to them that the 
wi-fi symbol on the status line of the iPhone sort of looked like an umbrella.  
It underscored for me how differently sighted people experience their devices. 
Where we hear things verbally with little to no idea what the accompanying icon 
might look like. Conversely we might say do you see something on the screen 
that says “compose” to write a message when in fact they only have vision of an 
icon whose symbol depicts something like a pencil in a circle thus making it 
harder for us to at times be a help to sighted family or friends. as such I was 
wondering if anyone had ever compiled a list of iOS icons in terms of their 
verbal cues we hear with an accompanying description so that we could better 
communicate not just with loved ones we might be helping but also app 
developers should we be giving feedback and the like. I.e. bridging the gap 
between the language of the iOS experience as both groups know it to be. If 
such a thing exists I’d love to know of it or if someone would be willing to 
compile such it’d be greatly appreciated by many I’m sure.
  Thanks in advance.
  Take good care.
  Robin


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