Hi, Lovely to see you here. I tried the first with him watching but it didn’t go so well. II found him a video for beginners with iPhone X so hopefully that’ll help for now but yes such a list for various operating systems would help not only with assisting people we know but also with dialoging with tech support or app developers and the like. I would certainly appreciate it. Take good care. Robin
From: 'Marcio' via VIPhone Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 12:18 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Query about iOS icons Robin, Wow, this would be wonderful if this list could be made. After this we could even expand it to Windows icons, Mac icons and so on. Meanwhile, two suggestions: Whenever you can, perform slowly the necessary steps with VoiceOver and let the person look out for what you're doing. This way they will see exactly what they should do because even though you're working with VoiceOver, visually it will be the same. Another suggestion, now regarding the list, we could start by adding icons that we already know from googling these stuff. For example, usually, the "Gear" icon will be the Settings button. Likewise the "Hamburger" or the "Three dots" icon will be the "More options" button. And the list goes on :) Cheers, Marcio AKA Starboy Sent from a galaxy far, far away. -- Are you a Thunderbird user? Then join the Thunderbird mailing list to help and be helped with all Thunderbird things - questions, features, add-ons and much more! Robin Frost wrote: Hi, Today I ran into a situation which highlighted for me the need for a resource I and I’m certain others could benefit from. I was with a sighted friend and someone was helping them with their phone and was explaining to them that the wi-fi symbol on the status line of the iPhone sort of looked like an umbrella. It underscored for me how differently sighted people experience their devices. Where we hear things verbally with little to no idea what the accompanying icon might look like. Conversely we might say do you see something on the screen that says “compose” to write a message when in fact they only have vision of an icon whose symbol depicts something like a pencil in a circle thus making it harder for us to at times be a help to sighted family or friends. as such I was wondering if anyone had ever compiled a list of iOS icons in terms of their verbal cues we hear with an accompanying description so that we could better communicate not just with loved ones we might be helping but also app developers should we be giving feedback and the like. I.e. bridging the gap between the language of the iOS experience as both groups know it to be. If such a thing exists I’d love to know of it or if someone would be willing to compile such it’d be greatly appreciated by many I’m sure. Thanks in advance. Take good care. Robin -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/6b04f6e1-3e4c-ce7f-afab-68cbbb13b922%40yahoo.com.br. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/6777F5BBF2F44EACAF60196B1CEDC8D6%40DESKTOPND4NKQB.