Yes if you guys could start such a list, that’ll be paradise! For helping my 
Dad especially who isn’t too tech savvy.
Also it’d be awesome to include for instance, how to use options in the rotor 
but from a sighted person’s perspective (deleting Whatsapp message chats, 
moving apps etc).

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 1 sep 2019, a la(s) 12:02 a. m., Robin Frost <[email protected]> escribió:

> Hi,
> Lovely to see you here.  I tried the first with him watching but it didn’t go 
> so well. II found him a video for beginners with iPhone X so hopefully 
> that’ll help for now but yes such a list for various operating systems would 
> help not only with assisting people we know but also with dialoging with tech 
> support or app developers and the like.  I would certainly appreciate it.
> Take good care.
> Robin
>  
>  
> From: 'Marcio' via VIPhone
> Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 12:18 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Query about iOS icons
>  
> Robin,
> Wow, this would be wonderful if this list could be made. After this we could 
> even expand it to Windows icons, Mac icons and so on.
> 
> Meanwhile, two suggestions:
> Whenever you can, perform slowly the necessary steps with VoiceOver and let 
> the person look out for what you're doing. This way they will see exactly 
> what they should do because even though you're working with VoiceOver, 
> visually it will be the same.
> 
> Another suggestion, now regarding the list, we could start by adding icons 
> that we already know from googling these stuff. For example, usually, the 
> "Gear" icon will be the Settings button. Likewise the "Hamburger" or the 
> "Three dots" icon will be the "More options" button. And the list goes on :)
> 
> Cheers, 
> Marcio
> AKA Starboy
> 
> Sent from a galaxy far, far away.
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> Robin Frost wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Today I ran into a situation which highlighted for me the need for a 
>> resource I and I’m certain others could benefit from.  I was with a sighted 
>> friend and someone was helping them with their phone and was explaining to 
>> them that the wi-fi symbol on the status line of the iPhone sort of looked 
>> like an umbrella.  It underscored for me how differently sighted people 
>> experience their devices. Where we hear things verbally with little to no 
>> idea what the accompanying icon might look like. Conversely we might say do 
>> you see something on the screen that says “compose” to write a message when 
>> in fact they only have vision of an icon whose symbol depicts something like 
>> a pencil in a circle thus making it harder for us to at times be a help to 
>> sighted family or friends. as such I was wondering if anyone had ever 
>> compiled a list of iOS icons in terms of their verbal cues we hear with an 
>> accompanying description so that we could better communicate not just with 
>> loved ones we might be helping but also app developers should we be giving 
>> feedback and the like. I.e. bridging the gap between the language of the iOS 
>> experience as both groups know it to be. If such a thing exists I’d love to 
>> know of it or if someone would be willing to compile such it’d be greatly 
>> appreciated by many I’m sure.
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Take good care.
>> Robin
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