50 years, is quite a long time.

With the way, software can be hacked, and computers can malfunction, it will be a long time, before i get in sutch a car. especially if it is totally autonomous.

-----Original Message----- From: lenron brown
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 3:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perspective?

Yeah sorry think you are wrong. Driverless cars are coming, and pretty
fast. In 50 years not as many people will drive unless they really
really want to. I worry about humans more than anything when it comes
to driving. I mean look at all the drunk driving and driving while
texting. It's going to be a thing insurance companies will either hate
or love.

On 9/15/19, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
Whether it’s a good idea or not I don’t know, but it will come.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 5:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perspective?

Given the huge Thicket of liability that is going to surround fully
autonomous vehicles, I’m not sure that’s a good idea. The speed of
technology has quite simply outpaced the speed of human ability to adapt and fully think through all of the consequences. Look around at machine learning
and AI, and tell me I’m wrong.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 15, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Sieghard Weitzel
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
It will make a huge difference in terms of technology in general. It will be 5G which will really enable fully autonomyous vehicles since that technology
cannot exist currently, there simply is not enough speed and bandwidth to
transmit the amounts of data required for vehicles to talk to each other and
the world. The different between LTE and 5G is sort of like the difference
between dial-up and highspeed interned, or maybe between the early 1 or 2 Mb download speed ADSL and Gigabit fiber networks. Once fully deployed it will
make an incredible difference in all aspects of technology and
connectivity.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 9:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perspective?

I agree with Mary.
4g came in around 2012.
It took several years before it became the standard, and 3g is only now
coming to an end in a year or so.
I'd be surprised if 5g is very widely available for at least 2 years; but
even then; how much difference will it really make?

Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.




On Sep 14, 2019, at 8:57 PM, lenron brown
<lenro...@gmail.com<mailto:lenro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
They said the same thing about 4g.

On 9/14/19, Dave
<dave.beckett...@gmail.com<mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I agree. It will be some time, before we get full roll out of 5G.

Dave.


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From: Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 11:21 PM
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Subject: Re: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perspective?

I really don’t see what all the hype about 5G is about. And it’s going to
be

a very long time before it does much penetration outside of major urban
densely populated areas. Just my two cents. Maybe in another couple of
years

when my 10 R is three years old, I’ll see what’s around then. I just cannot

get excited about 5G, when there are parts of the country that have
nothing.


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Also they claim 5G is going to be ready by next fall.

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Don't know what will be released. But i think apple will have something
special, just to mark the date.

Dave.


-----Original Message----- From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 6:40 PM
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Subject: RE: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perspective?

What is it that is going to be released in 2020?

Best regards,

Carolyn


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 1:26 PM
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Subject: Re: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perspective?

I think, that if i didn't need to get a new phone, which i don't.

Then i will be more interested, in the handsets, which will be released
in 2020.

Dave.


-----Original Message-----
From: lenron brown
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 4:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perspective?

I couldn't justify upgrading and if I could at this point I wouldn't want

the lesser of these IPhones. The pro max would be my choice because it's

big and comes fully loaded. Fast charger in the box and I can get it in
512 gb.

On 9/14/19, Richard Turner
<richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
I am not certain of this, but I do not think higher resolution cameras
are going to help with text recognition.

It might make a tiny difference with Facetime, but I find it hard to
believe it makes several hundred dollars worth of difference.

It would take consulting with a professional photographer to be
certain either way.

Just my 2¢ worth.


Richard

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perspective?

I look at it this way .. I want the best camera available .. the
better the camera, the better job scanning apps and such will do.
Plus things like FaceTime and such if you are needing someone to help.

Having said that maybe that is just my way of justification .. LOL …

The other thing is size .. and that is totally subjective.  I prefer
the smaller Pro, as I can still put it on my belt .. I don’t like a
phone in my hand or pocket .. again personal preference ..

No matter which you get .. I think you will be happy ..


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Subject: iPhone11, 11-Pro & 11ProMax From Blindness Perpective?

Hi, list.
I got a question about iPhone11-Pro & 11-ProMax.
If I get iPhone11 being a totally blind person, would I be missing
anything from 11-Pro or ProMax?
My understanding is that the only difference is better cameras and
video in 11-Pro & ProMax which I am not worried about, why should I
pay for something that I don’t use?
Is there anything that I am missing in 11-Pro or ProMax?
Thanks!

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