I went ahead and downloaded 13.1.3. I am running my hearing treatment with 
Bluetooth, something I could not do in .2. I am so glad. My ears have been 
ringing me to death. I think it will take several treatments to get me back to 
where I was, but at least I can do them now. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 11:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: IOS 13.1.3 released.

The navigating messages thread is a Voiceover feature.
I have only made a few calls, but so far Voiceover and sounds have not gone 
away, either. As far as whether you should update or not that isn't even a 
question you should consider, at this point you should always update to any new 
iOS 13 release. Yes, there is always a chance Apple could introduce a major new 
bug and you could wait a day or so because if they did you'd hear about it 
almost immediately on this list, but the chances of that are fairly small and 
there is a much bigger likelihood existing bugs are getting fixed.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 7:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: IOS 13.1.3 released.

What about VoiceOver?

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 8:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IOS 13.1.3 released.

I have an iPhone 8 plus for work that I just updated to 13.1.3 and I think; 
fingers crossed, the navigating message threads might be fixed.
I only had one thread I could test quickly, so I hope others can test more.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
Wagner



        On Oct 15, 2019, at 3:58 PM, Larry Smith <[email protected]> 
wrote:



        Ios 13.1.3 is now available for download. I don’t know what has been 
fixed 
or not fixed with VoiceOver. I am currently running iOS 13.2 beta.

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