Tom, you are not alone.
I turned off message threading because it is more of a pain than it is worth.
And, as for deleting messages, about half of the time I stay where it should, 
but just as often, I end up either back several messages, or on the back button.
And I'm on the beta for what that is worth.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Jan 30, 2020, at 6:40 AM, Les Kriegler <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Tom,

No, you are not alone. I can certainly verify the first issue you mentioned. As 
far as threads are concerned, are used to land on the first message of the 
thread so I’m not experiencing that issue. Like you, I keep popping an apple 
fix it, but the male issue has been a problem in life in the beginning. I think 
it’s the worst update apples ever sent out here. I don’t know if it’s ever 
going to get fixed in iOS 13. But I keep hoping it will at some point.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 30, 2020, at 4:36 AM, Tom Lange <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi all,
I’m running an iPhone 8 with IOS 13.3.1. Every time I update IOS I keep hoping 
that maybe, just maybe, Apple will finally fix the following
issues that I’m having with the native Mail app.
First, when flicking through a list of messages then deleting one, it’s highly 
unlikely that focus will remain at the message before the one that I just 
deleted. There’s no telling where focus will be, but more often than not I end 
up having to scroll or flick back down through the list to a message that I 
want to read, at which time I can open it.
Second, if I open a message thread that I’ve never viewed, odds are pretty good 
that the message that pops up is not the first message in the thread, and I 
have to use the rotor, select Messages, then flick up until I find the first 
message. As a side note, VO will speak the number of the message that I land 
on, for example, Message 2 or Message 3, et cetera, but that information won’t 
show up on my Braille display. And don’t even get me started on how flakey 
Braille support can be.

Is anybody else having these issues, or am I the lone voice crying out in the 
wilderness?

Tom

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