Ummm,

9 plus 3 equals 12, 
My work SE original is running 13.
If I take 3 away from 13 I get 10,
 10 is not nine,

 Unless they changed maths since I went to school.

 
9 updates to 10,
10 updates to 11,
11 updates to 12
12 updates to 13,

That to me makes it 4.
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Tuesday, 21 April 2020 4:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

Not Countin' TheYears, I'm countin'  TheYear that  Apple's iOS update  is 
Released

The 1stGeneration SE  was Released in  Sprin2016 with Apple's iOS9, &  so Far 
it has Received 3Additional iOS updates, as its (currently) on
iOS13 (Meanin' its iOS13 supported)
At 09:03 AM 4/20/2020, you wrote:
>Spring of 2016 to Spring of 2020 is 4 years ...
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>Robin
>Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 11:48 AM
>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning
>
>That Remains ToBe seen, & I'm specifically Referrin'To Apple's 
>iOSUpdates on Older MobilePhones (Like the 1stGeneration iPhoneSE).
>If Apple doesn't  Allow For iOS14 on  its 1stGeneration iPhoneSE, then 
>it would have been only SupportedFor 3Years since  the 1stGeneration SE 
>was Released in TheSpring of
>2016 & Recieve its Last iOS update in  September2019: Apple's iOS13
>
>Time will Tell TheStory
>
>As you have  Described, Apple's Sales of its MobilePhones, the iPhone  
>have Declined Over-the-Years & this could Be a  Result of Apple 
>supportin' its iOSDevices LongerThan its Competitors (Mainly Samsung)
>
>Let's Remember the 1stGeneration SE  was Retired & has TheSpecs of  
>Apple's iPhone6S & iPhone6S+ with Exception to  TheFingerPrintReader, 
>which is TheSame as on Apple's iPhone5S along with the BodyFrame of the 
>5S
>
>
>At 07:42 AM 4/20/2020, you wrote:
> >iPhone cells have been struggling for a couple of years now. Entering 
> >a low cost phone into the mix will help them sell tuns of these things.
> >Especially when their budget offering is better than anything on the 
> >market and offers longer software support than any Android phone out 
> >there. You could buy an iPhone SE2020 and still have it in five years.
> >On 4/20/2020 9:34 AM, Peter Logan wrote:
> >>The rumored 5.4 inch phone rumored for this fall will be exactly 
> >>what you are stating ..  If the rumors are true it will be  slightly 
> >>smaller than the 4.7 in. SE...
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >><viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Carolyn
> >>Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 10:29 AM
> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
> >>
> >>They need to keep being innovative in order to keep selling.
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> >>Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:14 PM
> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
> >>
> >>If Apple ever decided to make a 4.7 inch phone with an OLED screen 
> >>and virtually no screen bezel as well as Face Id so that the home 
> >>button wouldn't have to take up space at the bottom of the screen 
> >>they could easily make such a phone in the size of an old 5S or the 
> >>original SE.
> >>Of course whether this is going to happen is anybody's guess, don't 
> >>think it is anything which we'll see in the next couple of years, 
> >>but who knows what they'll do in 3 or 4 years.
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >><viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Carolyn
> >>Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:38 PM
> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
> >>
> >>Definitely, I don't think there'll ever be a phone that small again.
> >>I'm guessing that the new ones have 24 icons on the original home 
> >>page, not 20 like the original SE phones.
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave
> >>Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:06 PM
> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning
> >>
> >>You may find, any new phones after the new SE, will be bigger.
> >>
> >>Dave.
> >>
> >>
> >>From: kitty hevener <mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>
> >>Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:50 PM
> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
> >>
> >>
> >>Thanks, I could not recall or find the size of the original se, the 
> >>phone I currently have.  Since I don̢۪t like the la larger phones, 
> >>I will definitely be sticking with what I have as long as I can.  
> >>You might recall that I purchased an se with more space not that long ago.
> >>It was a mess getting the thing to work, but persistence, help from 
> >>folks on this list, apple accessability desk, and geniuses at the 
> >>apple bar, I succeeded.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> >>Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 8:32 PM
> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>First of all, Kitty, the new iPhone SE which was just released is 
> >>the exact same size/format of the iPhon e 8 and that is equal to a 
> >>4.7 inch screen.
> >>
> >>The original iPhone SE which was released in the spring of 2016 had 
> >>for the most part the internals of the iPhone 6S which was released 
> >>in the fall of 2015, but it was actually a 4 inch phone like the old 
> >>iPhone 5 and 5S from 2012 and 2013.
> >>
> >>As for iOS 14, I think it̢۪s entirely possible thathat the iPhone 
> >>6S, 6S Plus and the original SE still get this year̢۪s iOSiOS 
> >>release. After all, the iPhone 5S which was released in 2013 with 
> >>iOS 7 preinstalled got all the upgrades including iOS 12 in 2018, 
> >>only last fall did it not get iOS 13 any more. This means after the 
> >>OS it shipped with it got 5 more iOS updartes, all the way from 2013 to 
> >>2018 or 6 years.
> >>
> >>The iPhone 6S/6S Plus and the original SE were all released with iOS 
> >>9 preinstalled and so far they received iOS 10, 11, 12 and 13, that 
> >>is one version less than the 5S.
> >>
> >>My wife and I both also have the iPhone 8 and we will definitely not 
> >>upgrade to this new iPhone SE just for the sake of going from 2 Gb 
> >>to
> >>3 Gb of RAM and from the A11 to the A13 processor. In real life you 
> >>won̢۪t notice that much of a difference and anybodyody who argues 
> >>that on this new phone apps open faster, the app switcher come sup 
> >>faster and so on should ask themselves how many seconds a day 
> >>they’ll save and whether that is really worth it.
> >>Anybody who still has an iPhone 6 or even a 5S should probably 
> >>upgrade, but I want to see what Apple comes up with this fall. I 
> >>really want a phone with Face Id and 5G support, but unless there 
> >>are some other compelling aspects I will probably wait until the 
> >>fall of 2021.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>From: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> >><viphone@googlegroups.com
> >><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Robin
> >>Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 1:59 PM
> >>To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>No one Knows ForSure if Apple's iPhoneSE 1stGeneration will Be 
> >>Supported  by its Forthcomin' iOS14 Personally, I don't Think it 
> >>will Be Supported
> >>
> >>But with All of the Perceived Bugs & Flaws
> >>AssociatedWith Apple's iOS13, Apple may Support   the 1stGeneration SE
> >>At 01:49 PM 4/17/2020, you wrote:
> >>
> >>         Richrd, thanks.   Wonder how longong will be able to 
> >> use my current se.  I
> hope at least anothher year or two.Â
> >>
> >>         From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> >> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
> >>         Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 4:10 PM
> >>         To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> >>         Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning
> >>
> >>         It is not the same size as the old one.
> >>         It is more the size of the standard iPhone 8.
> >>         So current cases will not fit it.
> >>
> >>         The old SE is worth $30 in trade.
> >>         I plan to use my old one as a music and book player as a 
> >> WiFi only device.
> >>
> >>
> >>         (Sent from my iPhone SE)
> >>         C
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         On Apr 17, 2020, at 12:52 PM, kitty hevener 
> >> <kheve...@earthlink.net <mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>  > wrote:
> >>
> >>         
> >>
> >>         For clarification, is the new SE the same size as the old 
> >> one?  Has anyone tried trading in the old se for the new one?  Any 
> >> luck?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> >> On Behalf Of Fazil
> >>
> >>         Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 2:48 PM
> >>
> >>         To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> >>
> >>         Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         Is SE 2 better than iPhone8 in any ways?
> >>
> >>         Thanks!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com 
> >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  > On Behalf Of jkt4...@gmail.com 
> >> <mailto:jkt4...@gmail.com>
> >>
> >>         Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 5:40 AM
> >>
> >>         To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> >>
> >>         Subject: Ordered a new SE this morning
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         Good morning,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         With my sighted wife’s help I
>
> >> ordered a new SE, b, black, 128 Gb, with Apple Care  and arranged 
> >> to trade in my old iphone 8. We were online right at 7 AM CDT. It 
> >> took us 13 minutes from start to finish which I thought was pretty 
> >> good. I think we had to restart the process twice. It is supposed  
> >> to be delivered next Friday, April 24. I had to pay the full price 
> >> plus tax and they ship me a package with labels so I can send them 
> >> the iphone 8. When they get the 8 they will credit my account 
> >> $170.00. I didn’t want to
> try to to sell the old one locally.
> >.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         That’s my story, hope
>
> >> you’¢â‚¬â‬â„¢re all doing well in these strange times.
> >>
> >>         Joe
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