As I Said, I wasn't Countin' The iOsUpdate that it CameOut of the box with, which was iOS9. I know it came with iOS9, as I was 1 of TheFew to GetIt when it 1stLaunched in Spring2016
&
I already Admited that it has Already Received 4 Additional iOSUpdates: iOS10, iOS11, iOS12, & iOS13
TheJury is Out if  the 1stGeneration SE will Receive iOS14

I  chose Not to Update My 1stGeneration SE Past iOS10: iOS10.3.3
At 10:30 AM 4/20/2020, you wrote:
When I bought my first SE, it was on 11, then went to 12, and 13. So, there are three. People who bought theirs earlier had 9 and 10. That adds to five 9, 10, 11, 12, 13.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 12:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning

Not Countin' TheYears, I'm countin' TheYear that Apple's iOS update is Released

The 1stGeneration SE was Released in Sprin2016 with Apple's iOS9, & so Far it has Received 3Additional iOS updates, as its (currently) on
iOS13 (Meanin' its iOS13 supported)
At 09:03 AM 4/20/2020, you wrote:
>Spring of 2016 to Spring of 2020 is 4 years ...
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>Robin
>Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 11:48 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning
>
>That Remains ToBe seen, & I'm specifically Referrin'To Apple's
>iOSUpdates on Older MobilePhones (Like the 1stGeneration iPhoneSE).
>If Apple doesn't  Allow For iOS14 on  its 1stGeneration iPhoneSE, then
>it would have been only SupportedFor 3Years since  the 1stGeneration SE
>was Released in TheSpring of
>2016 & Recieve its Last iOS update in  September2019: Apple's iOS13
>
>Time will Tell TheStory
>
>As you have  Described, Apple's Sales of its MobilePhones, the iPhone
>have Declined Over-the-Years & this could Be a  Result of Apple
>supportin' its iOSDevices LongerThan its Competitors (Mainly Samsung)
>
>Let's Remember the 1stGeneration SE  was Retired & has TheSpecs of
>Apple's iPhone6S & iPhone6S+ with Exception to  TheFingerPrintReader,
>which is TheSame as on Apple's iPhone5S along with the BodyFrame of the
>5S
>
>
>At 07:42 AM 4/20/2020, you wrote:
> >iPhone cells have been struggling for a couple of years now. Entering
> >a low cost phone into the mix will help them sell tuns of these things.
> >Especially when their budget offering is better than anything on the
> >market and offers longer software support than any Android phone out
> >there. You could buy an iPhone SE2020 and still have it in five years.
> >On 4/20/2020 9:34 AM, Peter Logan wrote:
> >>The rumored 5.4 inch phone rumored for this fall will be exactly
> >>what you are stating ..  If the rumors are true it will be  slightly
> >>smaller than the 4.7 in. SE...
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [email protected]
> >><[email protected]> On Behalf Of Carolyn
> >>Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 10:29 AM
> >>To: [email protected]
> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
> >>
> >>They need to keep being innovative in order to keep selling.
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [email protected]
> >>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> >>Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:14 PM
> >>To: [email protected]
> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
> >>
> >>If Apple ever decided to make a 4.7 inch phone with an OLED screen
> >>and virtually no screen bezel as well as Face Id so that the home
> >>button wouldn't have to take up space at the bottom of the screen
> >>they could easily make such a phone in the size of an old 5S or the original SE.
> >>Of course whether this is going to happen is anybody's guess, don't
> >>think it is anything which we'll see in the next couple of years,
> >>but who knows what they'll do in 3 or 4 years.
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [email protected]
> >><[email protected]> On Behalf Of Carolyn
> >>Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:38 PM
> >>To: [email protected]
> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
> >>
> >>Definitely, I don't think there'll ever be a phone that small again.
> >>I'm guessing that the new ones have 24 icons on the original home
> >>page, not 20 like the original SE phones.
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [email protected]
> >>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave
> >>Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 3:06 PM
> >>To: [email protected]
> >>Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning
> >>
> >>You may find, any new phones after the new SE, will be bigger.
> >>
> >>Dave.
> >>
> >>
> >>From: kitty hevener <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:50 PM
> >>To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
> >>
> >>
> >>Thanks, I could not recall or find the size of the original se, the
> >>phone I currently have. Since I don’t liklike the la larger phones,
> >>I will definitely be sticking with what I have as long as I can.
> >>You might recall that I purchased an se with more space not that long ago.
> >>It was a mess getting the thing to work, but persistence, help from
> >>folks on this list, apple accessability desk, and geniuses at the
> >>apple bar, I succeeded.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>From: [email protected]
> >>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> >>Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 8:32 PM
> >>To: [email protected]
> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>First of all, Kitty, the new iPhone SE which was just released is
> >>the exact same size/format of the iPhon e 8 and that is equal to a
> >>4.7 inch screen.
> >>
> >>The original iPhone SE which was released in the spring of 2016 had
> >>for the most part the internals of the iPhone 6S which was released
> >>in the fall of 2015, but it was actually a 4 inch phone like the old
> >>iPhone 5 and 5S from 2012 and 2013.
> >>
> >>As for iOS 14, I think it’s entirely possissible thathat the iPhone
> >>6S, 6S Plus and the original SE still get this year’s iOSiOS
> >>release. After all, the iPhone 5S which was released in 2013 with
> >>iOS 7 preinstalled got all the upgrades including iOS 12 in 2018,
> >>only last fall did it not get iOS 13 any more. This means after the
> >>OS it shipped with it got 5 more iOS updartes, all the way from 2013 to 2018 or 6 years.
> >>
> >>The iPhone 6S/6S Plus and the original SE were all released with iOS
> >>9 preinstalled and so far they received iOS 10, 11, 12 and 13, that
> >>is one version less than the 5S.
> >>
> >>My wife and I both also have the iPhone 8 and we will definitely not
> >>upgrade to this new iPhone SE just for the sake of going from 2 Gb
> >>to
> >>3 Gb of RAM and from the A11 to the A13 processor. In real life you
> >>won’t notice that much of a difference andand anybodyody who argues
> >>that on this new phone apps open faster, the app switcher come sup
> >>faster and so on should ask themselves how many seconds a day
> >>they’ll save and whether that at is really worth it.
> >>Anybody who still has an iPhone 6 or even a 5S should probably
> >>upgrade, but I want to see what Apple comes up with this fall. I
> >>really want a phone with Face Id and 5G support, but unless there
> >>are some other compelling aspects I will probably wait until the
> >>fall of 2021.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>From: [email protected]
> >><mailto:[email protected]>
> >><[email protected]
> >><mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Robin
> >>Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 1:59 PM
> >>To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>No one Knows ForSure if Apple's iPhoneSE 1stGeneration will Be
> >>Supported  by its Forthcomin' iOS14 Personally, I don't Think it
> >>will Be Supported
> >>
> >>But with All of the Perceived Bugs & Flaws
> >>AssociatedWith Apple's iOS13, Apple may Support   the 1stGeneration SE
> >>At 01:49 PM 4/17/2020, you wrote:
> >>
> >> Richrd, thanks.  Wo Wonder how longong will be able to
> >> use my current se.  I
> hope at least anothher year or two.Â
> >>
> >>         From: [email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> On Behalf Of Richard Turner
> >>         Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 4:10 PM
> >>         To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>         Subject: Re: Ordered a new SE this morning
> >>
> >>         It is not the same size as the old one.
> >>         It is more the size of the standard iPhone 8.
> >>         So current cases will not fit it.
> >>
> >>         The old SE is worth $30 in trade.
> >>         I plan to use my old one as a music and book player as a
> >> WiFi only device.
> >>
> >>
> >>         (Sent from my iPhone SE)
> >>         C
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         On Apr 17, 2020, at 12:52 PM, kitty hevener
> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  > wrote:
> >>
> >>         ï»Ãâ‚¿
> >>
> >>         For clarification, is the new SE the same size as the old
> >> one?  Has anyone tried trading in the old se for the new one?  Any
> >> luck?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         From: [email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> On Behalf Of Fazil
> >>
> >>         Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 2:48 PM
> >>
> >>         To: [email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>
> >>         Subject: RE: Ordered a new SE this morning
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         Is SE 2 better than iPhone8 in any ways?
> >>
> >>         Thanks!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         From: [email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>  > On Behalf Of [email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>
> >>         Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 5:40 AM
> >>
> >>         To: [email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>
> >>         Subject: Ordered a new SE this morning
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         Good morning,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         With my sighted wife’™s help I
>
> >> ordered a new SE, b, black, 128 Gb, with Apple Care  and arranged
> >> to trade in my old iphone 8. We were online right at 7 AM CDT. It
> >> took us 13 minutes from start to finish which I thought was pretty
> >> good. I think we had to restart the process twice. It is supposed
> >> to be delivered next Friday, April 24. I had to pay the full price
> >> plus tax and they ship me a package with labels so I can send them
> >> the iphone 8. When they get the 8 they will credit my account
> >> $170.00. I didn’t want to
o
> try to to sell the old one locally.
> >.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>         That’s my story, hope
e
>
> >> you’¢âƒÂ¢‚‰â€Â¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â„¢re all doing well in these strange times.
> >>
> >>         Joe
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