Yes vibration  is off, but changing voices from Australian Karen to Siri 
male made a big difference.  Also, turning the item focus off made little 
difference.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Dennis Long
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 11:58 PM
Subject: RE: question regarding sound vibration in new SE


Mike did you turn off vibration under accessibility?  I put haptics in the 
search and it looks like if you turn that off it will turn it off for 
everything.  It says it will turn vibration off for everything including 
earth quake alerts.



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike 
B.
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 11:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: question regarding sound vibration in new SE



I've turned off the haptic feedback and still get the vibration.  I have 
haptics turned off in, Settings / System haptics, and also in, Accessibility 
/ Voiceover / Audio / Sounds and haptics.  I only have haptics turned on for 
the Home button, but still the phone vibrates.


Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
 *My body has absorbed so much soap and disinfectant lately that when I pee 
it cleans the toilet.

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Richard Turner

To: [email protected]

Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2020 8:19 PM

Subject: RE: question regarding sound vibration in new SE



That is the haptic feedback.

I do not think it is the sound volume at all.

I’m pretty sure that if you turned off the haptic feedback, you wouldn’t get 
the vibrations.







Richard

Chickens: the pet that poops breakfast!





From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 7:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: question regarding sound vibration in new SE



I’ve had my new SE for about a week. I upgraded from a 6S.  Before I sent my 
old phone back to Apple, I was doing a side by side comparison because of a 
difference I noticed.  I’m curious if those of you who are audiophiles or 
sound engineer types can explain this to me.   My sighted husband couldn’t 
detect what I was talking about, but I’m guessing other blind people would 
pick up on this as I did.



I’ve certainly heard some of you remark that sound quality is better on the 
SE.  I have really only used it for VoiceOver to date, and I wouldn’t claim 
to be that astute about music sound quality anyway. Here’s what I noticed. 
I had VoiceOver volume set as close to the same on both phones as possible I 
took both out of their cases and set them on the table. I then ran my finger 
over the screen showing my mail inbox on both phones, so that VoiceOver was 
reading aloud at the same time. .  I notice that the SE distinctly had a 
different feel as the sound is projecting.  I can really feel the vibration 
through my finger as I’m moving around the screen, even if volume is set 
low, like 25%.  It’s like the sounds waves are causing a vibration,.  It 
changes the sounds a bit and actually kind of irritates my finger.  I don’t 
feel any of that on the 6S.  Anyone else notice this?  I’m not sure how it 
would feel on a 7 or 8, so maybe most of you are used to this.  I’m just 
really surprised at how different it feels and I’m honestly a bit 
disappointed.  I think I’m also feeling the difference a bit on my eardrums, 
but the feel in my finger is a more pronounced way to describe the 
difference.



On a related note, is the hole on the bottom left were the 3.5 headphone 
used to plug in now also a speaker?  I just noticed that, if I have 
VoiceOver talking, my thumb clearly feels more vibration coming out of the 
right speaker than the left.  I’m not sure if it would be equal, so maybe 
this is expected behavior.



I’ll go to an Apple store soon if this could be a problem, but didn’t want 
to sound like a complete neurotic person without some validating of what I’m 
observing.



Robin















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