Can the scroll bar be disabled? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Shirley Baker Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 12:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window
Can you give me a little more instructions about finding a certain email using the scroll bar because this is what I would probably use it for. This does make sense but I just want a little more help in understanding about finding say a certain email. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 6, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Nicola Sanders <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Shirley, > Sure, I'll give it a try. I've edited the subject line to reflect the shift > in topic. I'll explain how the scroll bar works and give a couple of examples > of how I use it. > As you know, the vertical scroll bar is a very narrow strip running down the > right-hand edge of the screen. If you are at the top of a list (or a > document, a webpage or whatever), when you touch the vertical scroll bar, > VoiceOver will say "vertical scroll bar, 0%". When you swipe down on the > scroll bar with one finger, it moves you down through the list in increments > of 10%; so however long your list or page may be, you can get from top to > bottom with just ten one-finger swipes. The alternative would be to swipe up > using three fingers, but that gesture moves you in far smaller increments, > just a screen at a time, and so it takes a lot longer to move through the > list and locate what you're looking for. > One example where I find this useful is a TV app in the UK, called Sky+. In > the TV guide section there are hundreds of channels, numbered 1 to 999, with > a few gaps in the numbering. Supposing I'm I want to read the channels > starting from number 500 onwards: I touch the vertical scroll bar and swipe > down to around 50%, and I know I won't be far off. I touch the middle of the > screen to read one of the channel numbers currently displayed, and I can then > use the three-finger swipe up or down to find the exact location. If I were > to do a three-finger swipe through the whole list, it would take me far > longer, as each screen only consists of around six channels. Also, I don't > find it that easy to use that gesture repeatedly and very fast, and I'm > inclined to lose focus and have to tap the middle of the screen before > continuing. There are no such problems with the vertical scroll bar. > I also find it useful when navigating through my email inbox. I have far too > many messages in there and am in the process of cleaning them up. Obviously I > can search for a specific message, but I may just want to look at the emails > that I received around a certain time. Again, the three-finger swipe would > take ages. > I often use the scroll bar to find my place in a long document or newspaper > article if I get interrupted. I use it with large web pages as well, as it > can often be difficult to navigate through the whole page by headings. In > many situations I can do a three-finger tap on the middle of the screen to > hear roughly where I am, e.g. "rows 35 to 41 of 72"; next time I want to find > that location, I use the scroll bar to go to 50%, and I know I won't be far > out. > Note that the scroll bar works in the opposite direction to the three-finger > swipe: you swipe down on the scroll bar, but up when using the traditional > swipe gesture, to move from the top to the bottom. > I hope that made some sense - if not, let me know and I'll try to clarify. > HTH, > Nicky > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Shirley Baker > Sent: 06 June 2020 05:56 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window > > What long lists might you be referring to because I just don't understand how > to use this. Maybe you could explain to where it would make sense please. > q > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Jun 5, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Nicola Sanders <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >> Maybe I'm the only one, but personally I love the vertical scroll bar! I >> find it really useful for navigating very long lists - much quicker than >> endless three-finger swiping. Perhaps it should be an option in Settings. >> Best, >> Nicky >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >> Of Carolyn >> Sent: 05 June 2020 20:35 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window Boy I would >> too! >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Dave >> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 2:16 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window I would like >> the option. To hide the vertical scrol lbar. >> Dave. >> From: Anne West <mailto:[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 6:30 PM >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window I agree. It >> seems the world is suddenly camera happy. I would like to get rid of that >> info too. It’s annoying. >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >> Of Afik Souffir >> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 9:40 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window Hi Ann, I >> dont think that its have an option for this. >> Sent from my Iphone >>> On 5 Jun 2020, at 16:35, Ann Byrne <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: >> On the texting screen, there is all kinds of clutter including the names >> of other apps, camera, record, and so on. Is there a way to clear the crud >> off the screen so a beginner (or experienceder) can navigate directly to the >> text area and the keyboard without having to negotiate fifteen other items >> that don't relate to texting? >> I hope. >> Thx, >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached >> at: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> . 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