no.
Dave.
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From: Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2020 12:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: Removing the clutter on The
message window
Can the scroll bar be disabled?
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
Shirley Baker
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 12:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Vertical scroll bar, was: RE: Removing the clutter on The
message window
Can you give me a little more instructions about finding a certain email
using the scroll bar because this is what I would probably use it for. This
does make sense but I just want a little more help in understanding about
finding say a certain email.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 6, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Nicola Sanders <nicola.sand...@telenet.be>
wrote:
Hi Shirley,
Sure, I'll give it a try. I've edited the subject line to reflect the
shift in topic. I'll explain how the scroll bar works and give a couple of
examples of how I use it.
As you know, the vertical scroll bar is a very narrow strip running down
the right-hand edge of the screen. If you are at the top of a list (or a
document, a webpage or whatever), when you touch the vertical scroll bar,
VoiceOver will say "vertical scroll bar, 0%". When you swipe down on the
scroll bar with one finger, it moves you down through the list in
increments of 10%; so however long your list or page may be, you can get
from top to bottom with just ten one-finger swipes. The alternative would
be to swipe up using three fingers, but that gesture moves you in far
smaller increments, just a screen at a time, and so it takes a lot longer
to move through the list and locate what you're looking for.
One example where I find this useful is a TV app in the UK, called Sky+.
In the TV guide section there are hundreds of channels, numbered 1 to 999,
with a few gaps in the numbering. Supposing I'm I want to read the
channels starting from number 500 onwards: I touch the vertical scroll bar
and swipe down to around 50%, and I know I won't be far off. I touch the
middle of the screen to read one of the channel numbers currently
displayed, and I can then use the three-finger swipe up or down to find
the exact location. If I were to do a three-finger swipe through the whole
list, it would take me far longer, as each screen only consists of around
six channels. Also, I don't find it that easy to use that gesture
repeatedly and very fast, and I'm inclined to lose focus and have to tap
the middle of the screen before continuing. There are no such problems
with the vertical scroll bar.
I also find it useful when navigating through my email inbox. I have far
too many messages in there and am in the process of cleaning them up.
Obviously I can search for a specific message, but I may just want to look
at the emails that I received around a certain time. Again, the
three-finger swipe would take ages.
I often use the scroll bar to find my place in a long document or
newspaper article if I get interrupted. I use it with large web pages as
well, as it can often be difficult to navigate through the whole page by
headings. In many situations I can do a three-finger tap on the middle of
the screen to hear roughly where I am, e.g. "rows 35 to 41 of 72"; next
time I want to find that location, I use the scroll bar to go to 50%, and
I know I won't be far out.
Note that the scroll bar works in the opposite direction to the
three-finger swipe: you swipe down on the scroll bar, but up when using
the traditional swipe gesture, to move from the top to the bottom.
I hope that made some sense - if not, let me know and I'll try to clarify.
HTH,
Nicky
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
Shirley Baker
Sent: 06 June 2020 05:56
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window
What long lists might you be referring to because I just don't understand
how to use this. Maybe you could explain to where it would make sense
please.
q
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 5, 2020, at 1:57 PM, Nicola Sanders <nicola.sand...@telenet.be>
wrote:
Maybe I'm the only one, but personally I love the vertical scroll bar! I
find it really useful for navigating very long lists - much quicker than
endless three-finger swiping. Perhaps it should be an option in Settings.
Best,
Nicky
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf
Of Carolyn
Sent: 05 June 2020 20:35
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window Boy I would
too!
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 2:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window I would like
the option. To hide the vertical scrol lbar.
Dave.
From: Anne West <mailto:k1stm...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2020 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Removing the clutter on The message window I agree. It
seems the world is suddenly camera happy. I would like to get rid of that
info too. It’s annoying.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf
Of Afik Souffir
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 9:40
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Removing the clutter on The message window Hi Ann, I
dont think that its have an option for this.
Sent from my Iphone
On 5 Jun 2020, at 16:35, Ann Byrne <ann...@sbcglobal.net
<mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:
On the texting screen, there is all kinds of clutter including the
names of other apps, camera, record, and so on. Is there a way to clear
the crud off the screen so a beginner (or experienceder) can navigate
directly to the text area and the keyboard without having to negotiate
fifteen other items that don't relate to texting?
I hope.
Thx,
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