Oh yes, sorry, it’s in a Gmail message in the text body of The message  in the 
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> On Jun 13, 2020, at 6:06 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Glad to hear things are better.
> I have one question about what you said, "A few things I found out is that a 
> 3 finger swipe to the right will hide the options like insert photo, format, 
> etc where they appear just above the keyboard. You probably have to be at the 
> first item which I think is format to do this since you are swiping to the 
> right.
> 
> Is this in Emails?
> 
> I cannot get this to work at all.
> Swiping with three fingers just makes the sound that means you cannot swipe 
> further in that direction.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of deidre 
> muccio
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 2:49 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: all is well
> 
>> Hello all
>> 
>> Since most of you probably witnessed my perplexing horror over having 
>> a near totally unusable new SE phone, I can say that all has been 
>> resolved. A tentative hardware issue was ruled out by a cursory test 
>> by Yes Computers here in town, and AA said they did not take phones 
>> back unless visibly cracked, etc, I was told to restore the phone and 
>> set it up as new once more. I did this 4 or so days ago, and immediately 
>> noticed a change.
>>   I wonder why restoring the phone to it's factory default did not 
>> occur to me earlier, or was not suggested on any of the calls I made to AA.
>> No problem though, I feel lucky to have them there on call, even if 
>> the wait times are often over ten minutes.
>> I spoke with a tech specialist/supervisor who tested all the things I 
>> still had questions about using her own phone with gmail, voice over, 
>> messages, and Facebook, and this sped the process along. Rather than 
>> screen sharing, since I was very familiar with settings and the 
>> specific nature of problems I was having, she tested functions and was 
>> able to say that this was a still existing bug, or that she had the 
>> same result, so that was affirming. The call had been scheduled in 
>> advance so she was prepared to deal with the phone before resetting 
>> it, and she was gracious enough to  spend the time to clarify those few 
>> remaining questions I had.
>> A few things I found out is that a 3 finger swipe to the right will 
>> hide the options like insert photo, format, etc where they appear just 
>> above the keyboard. You probably have to be at the first item which I 
>> think is format to do this since you are swiping to the right. To 
>> unhide them you would swipe left from the last item. This used to 
>> drive me crazy and it seemed that with these new options visible above 
>> the keypad/keyboard, I had to be far more precise about where I 
>> touched on the screen before one or another of these options interrupted my 
>> carrying on with typing.
>> As for the predictive text and auto correct being turned off, well, 
>> there is no way to get rid of them altogether. The problem is that 
>> while either typing or dictating for instance, the words put in are 
>> rarely what I want, so that still involves having to edit out the unwanted 
>> words.
>> Finally, my settings are tweaked right now so that I have no pitch 
>> changes that do not involve things like capital letters or language changes.
>> As for the roter not staying where you last left it, such as in 
>> messages, that has been well documented, and maybe the overall 
>> function of the roter will be better sometime down the line. It's 
>> predictable I think in that it moves to the previous item so if you 
>> want to wind up back on character or word rather than something else, 
>> then make sure you check the order in which things have been selected in the 
>> roter.
>> Overall the new phone may serve me well over time, but I still prefer 
>> the lighter feel and slimmer thickness of the older models of phones 
>> and I still prefer a mechanical home button. Having no home button 
>> might not be so hard for me to navigate so if I need another phone at 
>> some point, I might look for a phone without any home button at all, 
>> meaning one that has nothing differentiated by any perceptible tactile 
>> outline.
>>   Contrary to what some others have said, I don't find this phone 
>> particularly fast or responsive, especially around touching the home 
>> button to get back to the home screen or to use Siri, but what the 
>> heck. I'm done fretting. I've got 2 working phones so unless both act 
>> up at the same time, at least I will have a backup. Much of my data 
>> for Apps like Voice Dream Writer and I can't think what else now, is 
>> on my old 6 which is pretty much defunct since the battery won't hold 
>> a charge for long. Everything came over via gmail like Notes and contacts 
>> and mail and messages so that is good.
>> One new plus is that in years past ear buds and earphones gave me pain 
>> in my ears. I can now use the earbuds with my phone when moving about 
>> outdoors and I can withstand doing that for up to half an hour before 
>> my inner ear starts to hurt. I've avoided using any wired or bluetooth 
>> ear piece for that reason but at least I can now be hands free of the 
>> phone when necessary for short periods of time at least. If I need to 
>> take a call when walking down the street, if I choose to do that, it's 
>> much easier hitting the button on the earpiece than it is having to dig the 
>> phone out of wherever it is.
>> The last of what needs setting up is the Bluetooth keyboard. It is 
>> still not paired with either of my phones. Each time I see someone 
>> it's not a good time to ask them to look at it, make sure the 
>> batteries are in right, a light is on, and to tell me what those two buttons 
>> on the far right say.
>> All this might be the only instance in which I could say that I'm 
>> content with the "new normal."
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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