I also find myself scratching my head sometimes over the things people complain about and finding out what people hate. That being said, we we’re paying the same amount of money for our iPhones that sighted people are paying, and that means we have the same right they do to ask for changes and enhancements. iPhones are not cheap, and we’re talking about features Apple puts on the phone and brags about, so although we can appreciate those features we should never settle or stop asking for improvements. The best way to have bugs hang around release after release is to not report them.
I also don’t agree with the statement that the free screen readers for Windows can’t hold a candle to VoiceOver on the iPhones or iPads. It’s true I’m not using Narrator on a smart phone, but on my PC, I find NVDA and Narrator more than hold their own. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 6:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Siri problem To a point, we should be grateful. But we must also ask, politely I may add, for more. Keep in mind that the accessibility team at Apple aren’t bots, although they have responses that they give rather automatically because they *cannot* say more at the time. But they *do* want our feedback, positive or negative. They want to help us do even more with our devices. So don't feel like you just have to pray to Saint Jobs and hope they fix the mail focus bug. Give them feedback if you want something. Show your gratitude, if you’d like to think of it in this way, by telling them what could be better. I assure you, Apple won’t delete your VoiceOver off your phone for asking. Devin Prater [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Https://devinprater.github.io On Jun 28, 2020, at 5:07 PM, Richard Turner <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I agree with your rant; and I'll add my own. VoiceOver is free. You get amazing accessibility, and it does not cost a cent more. Bugs exist in all software, get over it. If you use a Windows computer, you have to spend a heck of a lot more for good accessibility; and there are bugs there too. And, while I'm on the subject, the free screen readers for Windows do not hold a candle to VoiceOver on the iPhones or iPads. Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert On Jun 28, 2020, at 2:52 PM, Jennie Facer <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I can understand someone not liking the voices, but folks this is it really! If we didn't have these voices or any of them, we would be in a world of hurtin'. Be greatful that you have choices. Be greatful you have VoiceOver period. Apple has made it nice for us although thereare bugs. There will always be bugs so don't expect a perfect world of technology because they are human, too. Anyway, that's my rant for today. Jenn Jenn and Kumi On Jun 28, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Shirley Baker <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I really don't like any of the voices but for now, I've got Siri male. I really hate the sound of all of them except for Siri male and really hate the way Siri voices pronounce some words. Looks like they could come up with better ones. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2020, at 1:04 PM, Shirley Baker <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Is this the problem with Samatha that you all are talking or is Samatha a different voice than Siri? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Diane Giannetti <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Someone else had the same problem and she called Apple. I also had the same problem. What we have to do is change her voice if you have the American Female that seems to be the problem. It was with the last update that some of us are having a problem with that. I changed it to the male American Apple had suggested to the other person to change it to a British voice. So it’s up to you but whatever when you change it and it should work. Apparently with the next update this should be resolved. Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! 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