I haven't used the Chirpomatic app in a year. I tried using the app on an 
iPhone 7. The recordings were very low in their volume, unless the bird was 
very close, like in a tree just above my head. I hope this has been fixed.

Donna

   
> 
> Debby,
> 
> Thanks for your review of this one.  I will give it a try.
> 
> The Bird Song ID app I have tried also lowers the volume as soon as you tap 
> on the tab for recording bird songs, so yes, it would seem it may have 
> something to do with the microphone.  Headphones do work fine with this.
> 
> Pam
> 
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: [email protected] [[email protected]] on behalf of Debby 
> [[email protected]]
> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 2:49 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In case anyone is interested, I did buy the ChirpOmAtic app. It is generally 
> accessible with a couple of caveats. I did not try recording any birds 
> because it is a hot muggy day around here.
> 
> Here are a couple of issues. Here is the biggest one. When you start the app 
> Voiceover does not come out of the speaker. It is as though you are on a 
> phone call. If you press the home button and come out of the app and go back 
> in then voiceover comes out of the speaker. (I did not try with headphones to 
> see what would happen.) I am thinking that this happens because the app wants 
> to use the microphone, and so it puts any sound on the phone to the ear 
> piece. This is fixable, but strange!
> 
> Most of the controls are fine, but some of them are labeled with words with 
> no spaces. For instance on the first page there is a control that is labeled 
> “taptorecord.”
> 
> The app does have a reference section where you can hear various birds. This 
> section has a letter index and a search that is accessible and works. On the 
> page where you hear the birds songs/calls there is a description of the sound 
> just as there is in the “Chirp! Bird Song & calls USA” app. However, if you 
> want to read the description of the song/call, you have to hunt a bit toward 
> the bottom right of the screen.
> 
> Take care!
> 
> Debby
> 
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Debby
> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 11:14 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It looks as though the ChirpOmAtic and the one I suggested “Chirp USA” are 
> from the same developer. By the way, I just looked in the app store, and the 
> one I recommended is listed as “chirp! Bird songs & calls USA.” I looked up 
> what I paid, and it was $3.95 in December, 2016. Because it is on my phone, I 
> can’t tell if the price has changed.
> 
> I think I am going to get the “ChirpOMAtic” and try it out. Although birds 
> aren’t really singing as much this time of year in my suburban environment. 
> It will be interesting to see how it handles multiple birds.
> 
> Take care!
> 
> Debby
> 
> 
> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 10:18 AM
> To: viPhone 📩
> Subject: Re: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 10:28 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
> 
> I wonder about these apps when you have multiple birds singing at the same 
> time.
> I’m not sure any of them could be all that accurate.
> 
> It’s too bad they don’t have a trial period.
> Like you Bill, I would not buy an app without knowing it worked with 
> VoiceOver at the very least.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill 
> Gallik
> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2020 7:18 AM
> To: viPhone 📩 <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
> 
> 
> 
> ************
> - Sent from Bill's iPhone 6 (iOS 12.4.8) via Google Mail
> I am likewise interested in an app that can identify birds by their calls 
> with a reasonable degree of accuracy.  I live in northern Wisconsin and as I 
> sit outside listening to the cacauphony of bird calls surrounding me I’d like 
> to know which species are so garciously treating me to Nature’s symphony.
> 
> I went to the web site listed by Richard and found an app named ChirpOMatic 
> but wonder if it is accessible.  It costs $3.95 and I am sufficiently cheap 
> that I do not want to throw away that amount.
> 
> Can anybody tell me if ChirpOMatic is accessible to a totally blind person?
> 
> 
> ************
> - Bill from Ino, Wisconsin
> - “The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.”
> - Contributor Unknown
> P.S.
> Wow, what an appropriate signature tag the system randomly chose for this 
> message.  I swear, I had nothing to do with this signature other than adding 
> to my library; I have the Mac randomly selecting signature tags!
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 18, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Richard Turner 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
> If you are wanting an app that will tell you what the bird is from hearing 
> the song, here is a review that you may find helpful.
> https://lifehacker.com/shazam-for-birds-three-apps-that-recognize-bird-calls-1797955537<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flifehacker.com%2Fshazam-for-birds-three-apps-that-recognize-bird-calls-1797955537&data=02%7C01%7Cpamela.a.ekstrand.-nd%40disney.com%7C92543840c8294daa424608d82c148533%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C637307813939897703&sdata=CfwBCxLzap2BrgstRh1zCnbS64hImB5roS937HTE3XQ%3D&reserved=0>
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> If you want one to look up birds and hear what their song is like plus other 
> information, check out the free Audubon app.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Debby
> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 1:04 PM
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
> 
> Hi Pam,
> 
> First thanks to James for taking the plunge in answering your email. Those 26 
> instances of your email scared me a bit.
> 
> Anyway, the bird song identification app I use is "Chirp USA." It has a ton 
> of birds and includes bird songs as well as calls. Also, there are good 
> descriptions of the songs/call and links to other information about the bird 
> for the Cornell ornithology site and Wikipedia.
> 
> Take care!
> 
> Debby
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James English
> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2020 3:46 PM
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Accessible and Accurate Bird Song Identification App
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I don't know an app but I think your email might be broken as you sent this 
> 26 times.
> 
> - James
> 
> On 7/18/20, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Just wondering if anyone has found a good app for identifying birds by
> their song?  I have tried some that are not very accessible.  The one
> I did find mostly accessible does not seem to be very accurate as it
> will identify the same song as belonging to different birds at different 
> times.
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> Pam
> 
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