Thanks Mary, we like traveling in Oregon's wine country and to the coast. But, mostly we really like our house and yard. It will be nice when we can have friends over again.Later,
Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert On Sep 18, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks for the services you provide, richard. I had forgotten about your handout. And congratulations on the retirement. If we ever get past the virus and the fires, enjoy traveling if that’s what you like. Lots to see and do here in the Northwest. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote: As Mary said, it is mostly the few new gestures. I cover those in the handout I put together on VoiceOver gestures, freely available at https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C26370ea1ed604665606208d85c2046f4%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637360640975846675&sdata=DC5YbmrCo63tYEM9oflWUykWgIVfkIQwA3ehtixpAGQ%3D&reserved=0 Richard "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Les Kriegler Sent: Friday, September 18, 2020 10:29 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iOS14, iPadOS14, and Scene Descriptions Hi Mark and Aul, Mark, thanks for your review and comments on iOS 14. Is that will be purchasing new iPhones from my wife and I when they become available, I am not gonna upgrade my current model. I do have a couple of questions, however. Will I be using face recognition on the iPhone 12? I’m guessing I would be. Are there any resources or books that you were anybody can recommend as I prepare to go from the 8+ to the iPhone 12. Thanks in advance for any assistance. Best regards, Les Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2020, at 12:01 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: Hello Family, 1. I installed iPad OS 14 on my 2017 iPad Pro 10.5 tablet. Several of the new features of iPad OS 14 are not available on this model. However, the VoiceOver Scene Description feature is available, albeit a scaled-down version, and was set to on, by default. This feature drove me crazy because it kept saying something like "triangle or diagonal" almost all the time when viewing items in a list. It took me what seemed like forever to find where this feature was located in the OS. I found the setting under VoiceOver Verbosity. I turned the feature to off but doing so did not disable the feature until after a restart of the device. 2. I installed iOS14 on an iPhone 11. Strangely enough, all of the scene descriptions were set to off, by default. 3. My primary device is my beloved iPhone 8 Plus. The 8 Plus has been on the market for quite a while and, as happens to all devices, sooner or later, installing the latest OS begins to slow down the responsiveness of the phone. So, I am not going to install iOS14 on my 8 Plus until after hearing from various people on this list, that doing so will not cause my 8 Plus to slow down. I am also not going to install 14 on my 8 Plus because I am planning on purchasing an iPhone 12 when it is released; assuming that it ships with a Touch ID sensor, as I strongly suspect that it will. If the iPhone 12 does not include a Touch ID sensor, then I will try to hold out for another year in hopes that Apple will bring the hardware feature back on a later model. 4. Finally, my beloved Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus has an in-display Touch ID sensor / Home button. I am hoping that Apple will include the same or similar feature on iPhone 12. However, given the way that they have implemented the new Touch ID on its latest releases of iPAds, all bets are off. Just have to wait and see. 5. I would like to host another Zoom group discussion this Sunday so we can talk about all of the new Apple software and hardware features and devices. If I can manage it, I will send out a notice early Sunday morning. I hope you are all doing well. Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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