The reason I don't use iTunes is because, IMO, it sucks. Sorry, too strong. I have found iTunes too confusing, too bloated, too many options, and way too complicated. I stopped using it several years ago after I finally was able to upload my music library to use the iTunes Match service. I'm still not sure how I managed that, but got it done. I haven't really used it since. Granted, there may be those who disagree and find iTunes tolerable or even "lovely". As for me, Apple has given us this ability to restore from iCloud and that suits me just fine.
Just my biased thoughts, Wayne Merritt On 9/24/20, chalt...@gmail.com <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: > Although I agree that it's important for blind people to participate in the > betas and provide feedback, I also agree with Wayne that you have to keep in > mind that these are betas, so it may not be appropriate for every blind > person to be running a beta on their only device. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Gmail > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >> Of Daniel MacDonald >> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 12:02 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: list of my problems with voiceover and iOS 14 >> >> hello Wane, >> >> to each their own. I myself have one iOS device that can run iOS 14. >> I understand your apprehention about joining the beta program, but why >> don't >> you use iTunes on your computer? an update could go wrong sometime when >> Apple relises them! >> Daniel >> >> >> On 9/24/20, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I've thought of joining the beta program, but don't want to compromise >> > my primary device. I don't have a separate device to test on. Plus, I >> > don't use iTunes on my computer so can't restore anything if something >> > goes wrong. Hats off to the beta testers though for the hard work you >> > put in and the bugs you report. No one can get it all, but great work >> > on what is reported. >> > >> > Wayne >> > >> > On 9/23/20, Daniel MacDonald <daniel.angus.macdon...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> hello, >> >> >> >> I was a public beta tester before iOS 14 was publicly released to >> >> the masses. I have ran into a few of these, and I will report them >> >> post haist once my iPhoner is sent back to me. in the mean time, I >> >> urge all experiencing bugs to report them to accessibil...@apple.com, >> >> and then join the Apple beta software program. being a member of this >> >> program puts you in direct contact with Apple's Engenneering team. >> >> they do not email you, but have the best chance of the bugs getting >> >> fixt I was speaking to apple accessibility phone tech support, and >> >> they informed me that currently about five percent of VoiceOver users >> >> are beta testers. I urge all to join this program and only then, with >> >> multiple users reporting the same bugs, will are voices be herd. time >> >> and time again, I see on AppleVis and on several email lists, people >> >> complaining about the bug they experience and doing nothing. the only >> >> to rectify all of these complaints, is for everybody to join the >> >> apple beta software program and report what bugs they find , >> >> reporting these affore menchined bugs to Apple is invabuable. . happy >> >> beta testing everybody, Daniel Angus MacDonald >> >> >> >> >> >> On 9/23/20, James Lockwood <lockwoo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> good afternoon. This is a long message but I urge you to read it all >> >>> if you use voiceover. I have attempted to make a comprehensive list >> >>> of all the errors I have noticed that far. Please comment and let me >> >>> know if you can repeat any or all of these errors and if so, which >> >>> ones. Also let me know >> >>> how to contact Apple voiceover support to report these problems. I >> >>> am >> >>> having several problems with voiceover and iOS 14. I have tried to >> >>> make a comprehensive list because these problems just started today >> >>> or yesterday. >> >>> I >> >>> bought my iPhone 11 promax on September 8. I updated four or five >> >>> days ago whenever the update was available. For some reason either I >> >>> didn’t notice, or the problems were not occurring for the first few >> >>> days. Can anyone else reproduce any or all of these issues? >> >>> >> >>> Reaching down to the right corner to hit the dictate button >> >>> sometimes just holding my finger on the screen makes the iPhone >> >>> click endlessly as if I am scrolling through thousands of pages This >> >>> endless clicking when you hold your finger down on the screen also >> >>> occurs randomly and other apps when you simply put a finger on the >> >>> screen and don’t move it. It sounds like you’re moving it as fast as >> >>> humanly possible clicking thousands of times but going nowhere >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> The other day My iPhone completely became unresponsive in part. I >> >>> could flip back-and-forth open up folders but could not open any >> >>> app. double clicking did nothing. Siri would not do anything. >> >>> Asking her to do anything at all resulted in her stating the >> >>> obvious, there’s a problem. Holding down the power button and volume >> >>> did not bring up slide slide to shut down I had to do a hard reset. >> >>> For iPhones that do not have a home button, the way you do this is >> >>> quickly pressing volume up, volume down, then holding the side power >> >>> button until your phone shows the Apple logo >> >>> >> >>> Opening up the mail app focus get stuck on the search box in the >> >>> search button continuously flicking right does not change the focus >> >>> to the list of folders or list of male messages. The same thing >> >>> happens when opening up the message application. Focus get stuck on >> >>> the search box. The only way to get out of this is to tap somewhere >> >>> else on the screen there by manually changing the focus to the list >> >>> of text messages or list of emails or whatever >> >>> >> >>> Opening up settings accessibility voiceover audio and haptics none >> >>> of the customizations for different functions, that is determining >> >>> for each type of activity whether you want vibrate and or sound to >> >>> occur, none of those customizations have any effect. Sound and >> >>> vibrations are always played >> >>> >> >>> Occasionally when I go to the app switcher, the app switcher opens >> >>> but the phone continues to read the home screen as if the app >> >>> switcher never came up >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> when the focus is on the enter button on the keyboard it used to be >> >>> that flicking right once took you to the dictate button. Now, it >> >>> sometimes clicks twice as if it is skipping and does not always read >> >>> the full word, dictate. >> >>> It interrupts itself like it struggling >> >>> >> >>> If you try to merge a call to do a three-way conversation, hitting >> >>> add call takes you to the contact list so you can decide who else to >> >>> add to the conversation. However voiceover jumps around like a jack >> >>> rabbit and will not get off the first name in the alphabetical list >> >>> of whatever group you were looking at. No matter where are you >> >>> touching the screen it’s stuttering and only reads a portion of the >> >>> first persons alphabetical name >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> When reading the content of a widget displayed on the home screen, >> >>> flicking upp down does not always bring up the options of next >> >>> widget previous widget or edit like it supposed to. >> >>> >> >>> I was just about ready to send this email, put my finger on the send >> >>> button flipped right in order to read the address carbon copy box in >> >>> subject box, and instead voiceover took me to the keyboard options >> >>> for attach pictures etc. I just tried it again and the air did not >> >>> occur. It’s very hit and miss on that one. >> >>> >> >>> The problem mentioned above with the dictate button has already been >> >>> explained. But I just remembered that because of this error, I >> >>> deleted my emoji keyboard. Before the error was occurring but >> >>> instead of stuttering over the word dictate, it would say :-) :-) >> >>> :-) even though I was on the >> >>> letter keyboard so to be clear, I would have my finger on the enter >> >>> key, >> >>> decide I wanted to dictate some text, flipp to The right, and >> >>> instead of the word dictate, it would say :-) :-) : >> >>> >> >>> Those are what I have noticed so far. There are likely more such as >> >>> focus not being able to be switched off of the search box in the >> >>> settings app and less you manually do it by putting your finger >> >>> somewhere else on the screen. >> >>> It seems the more I use the phone the more errors occur. Maybe I >> >>> just didn’t notice these errors for the first few days because I >> >>> was just blown away by the uniqueness of the iOS and fancy new >> >>> phone, I upgraded from a iPhone 6s so it was a big difference, but I >> >>> don’t think so. >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> The following information is important for all members of the V >> >>> iPhone list. >> >>> >> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >> >>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >> >>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the >> >>> list itself. >> >>> >> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> >>> mk...@ucla.edu. 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