Wayne,

I agree that it's an interesting feature,
But do wonder about how best it will be used by people and I mean all users not 
just the sight impaired.

 The holding the phone in front of me would be my concern or first concern,
However if you could pair this feature with a device such as or for example the 
google glasses or if apple had a device of similar type,
 Then I might be more interested in it.

So a headset like was mentioned with Data from star trek,
 Pairing with the iPhone feature for distance,
 I think would more interest me.

Just a thought.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Wayne 
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Sent: Tuesday, 3 November 2020 4:55 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away people are

To respond to the original post, I think it's an interesting concept being able 
to tell where and how far away people are with your phone.
To those concerned about one walking around with their phones out, I have done 
this anyway when using the Aira app. One of my colleagues is very excited about 
this general ability with the iPhone 12 Pro for the accessibility benefits. I 
think it is interesting, however I also think it is interesting the new iPhone 
is getting a feature that many people are not going to use because they're at 
home due to the virus.
It seems like the iPhone 12 in general has some test features in it which are 
not widely available, such as 5G and this new people detection. I'm going to 
wait for them to more fully develop in next year's phone. I would be interested 
to hear any podcasts from any brave soul who has purchase the iPhone 12 Pro and 
is willing to demonstrate the new people detection feature.

Wayne Merritt

On 10/31/20, h.begum99 via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> That would be great, wouldn’t it? I want his visor as well!!!
>
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: 31 October 2020 05:32
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away 
> people are
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> Forget it, I want at least Geordi La Forge's visor if not his ocular 
> prosthetics, a silly iPhone 12 Pro won't cut it.
>
> And for those who are not Star Trek fans, Geordi is one of the main 
> characters in Start Trek The Next Generation, he was blind from birth, 
> but became Chief Engineer on the Enterprise under Captain Jean-Luc Picard.
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of karuna Chopra
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> To: ViPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com 
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> Subject: iPhones can now tell blind users where and how far away 
> people are
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> Hi! This sounds quite promising! What is everybody’s view on its 
> practical use for us?
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>
> The lidar in the iPhone 12 Pro shows up in this infrared video. Each 
> dot reports back the precise distance of what it reflects off of.
>
> First, it tells the user whether there are people in view at all. If 
> someone is there, it will then say how far away the closest person is 
> in feet or meters, updating regularly as they approach or move further 
> away. The sound corresponds in stereo to the direction the person is in the 
> camera’s view.
>
> Second, it allows the user to set tones corresponding to certain distances.
> For example, if they set the distance at six feet, they’ll hear one 
> tone if a person is more than six feet away, another if they’re inside that 
> range.
> After all, not everyone wants a constant feed of exact distances if 
> all they care about is staying two paces away.
>
> The third feature, perhaps extra useful for folks who have both visual 
> and hearing impairments, is a haptic pulse that goes faster as a 
> person gets closer.
>
> Last is a visual feature for people who need a little help discerning 
> the world around them, an arrow that points to the detected person on 
> the screen. Blindness is a spectrum, after all, and any number of 
> vision problems could make a person want a bit of help in that regard.
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> Read the full article here
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> https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/30/iphones-can-now-tell-blind-users-whe
> re-and-how-far-away-people-are/
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