I understand exactly what you’re saying.  However, some people have commented 
here that even though Describe Images is turned off under VoiceOver Recognition 
the night sky issue was not resolved until it was turned off in the Rotor.  
This may be a bug of course which lead me to question the relation to the 
options for enabling and disabling this feature.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 20 Dec 2020, at 16:38, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> 
> I may be wrong, but I think some of the features under Voiceover Recognition 
> are not available on the iPhone 8.
> For those who have newer phones, definitely iPhone 11 which is what I have 
> and possibly iPhone XR, you can turn image and screen recognition on or off 
> in Voiceover Settings under Voiceover Recognition. If you turn it on you then 
> get a list of all your apps where you can turn it on or off and you can, of 
> course, add it to the rotor.
> I use a VoIP phone app called 3CX which is set up to work with my business 
> telephone system. This app was completely inaccessible on my old iPhone 8 and 
> also on newer phones with screen recognition turned off. However, with screen 
> recognition turned on the app becomes almost completely accessible, not 
> perfect, but I can access recent calls, the keypad, settings and other areas. 
> I therefore turned on Screen Recognition in Voiceover Settings > Voiceover 
> Recognition, but then I went through my list of apps and turned it off for 
> all apps except for 3CX, this way whenever I open 3CX it is on and for other 
> apps I can turn it as well as image recognition on using the rotor if I want 
> it. It's a fantastic new feature of iOS 14.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Debbie 
> Downey
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 8:25 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Described immages
>  
> That is what I’m wondering about; I can’t find image recognition in voice 
> recognition under voiceover;  that is why I think that maybe this is 
> available in a newer iPhone than I have.   
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mike B
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 7:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Described immages
>  
> I just tested this out and apparently if you turn on Image Description in 
> Voiceover Recognition this will turn it on for all apps.  The Describe Images 
> option on the rotor controls its function per individual application.  If I'm 
> wrong someone please correct me.
> 
> Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Malcolm Parfitt
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 2:25 AM
> Subject: Re: Described immages
>  
> If you go into Settings, Accessibility, Voiceover and VoiceOver Recognition 
> you will find it there.
>  
> Not sure what its relationship is with the Rotor, does the Rotor override the 
> setting here?
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
>  
> 
> On 20 Dec 2020, at 02:46, Mike B <mb69ma...@fastmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Debbie,
>  
> I don't think there is a setting in Accessibility / Voiceover for turning 
> this on and off, at least I couldn't find it.  I believe the only way to do 
> this is to add, Describe Images, to the rotor and once it's on the rotor you 
> highlight it and flick up and down to turn it on and off for each app.
> 
> Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Debbie Downey
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 6:20 PM
> Subject: Described immages
>  
> Hi,
> I have an iPhone 8 and I did add described images to the roter. However, 
> isn’t there somewhere to turn this off under voiceover? I can’t seem to find 
> it. Is that feature available in a newer model of the iPhone or am I just 
> missing something which is highly likely?
> Thanks!
> Debbie
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