This was the case for me.  Turning it off didn't really turn it off, and i had 
to add it to the roter and then take it out of the roter for each app. What a 
pain in the butt!

Andy

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Malcolm Parfitt 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 8:44 AM
  Subject: Re: Described immages


  I understand exactly what you’re saying.  However, some people have commented 
here that even though Describe Images is turned off under VoiceOver Recognition 
the night sky issue was not resolved until it was turned off in the Rotor.  
This may be a bug of course which lead me to question the relation to the 
options for enabling and disabling this feature.


  Malcolm Parfitt


    On 20 Dec 2020, at 16:38, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:


     
    I may be wrong, but I think some of the features under Voiceover 
Recognition are not available on the iPhone 8.

    For those who have newer phones, definitely iPhone 11 which is what I have 
and possibly iPhone XR, you can turn image and screen recognition on or off in 
Voiceover Settings under Voiceover Recognition. If you turn it on you then get 
a list of all your apps where you can turn it on or off and you can, of course, 
add it to the rotor.

    I use a VoIP phone app called 3CX which is set up to work with my business 
telephone system. This app was completely inaccessible on my old iPhone 8 and 
also on newer phones with screen recognition turned off. However, with screen 
recognition turned on the app becomes almost completely accessible, not 
perfect, but I can access recent calls, the keypad, settings and other areas. I 
therefore turned on Screen Recognition in Voiceover Settings > Voiceover 
Recognition, but then I went through my list of apps and turned it off for all 
apps except for 3CX, this way whenever I open 3CX it is on and for other apps I 
can turn it as well as image recognition on using the rotor if I want it. It's 
a fantastic new feature of iOS 14.



    From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Debbie Downey
    Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 8:25 AM
    To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: RE: Described immages



    That is what I’m wondering about; I can’t find image recognition in voice 
recognition under voiceover;  that is why I think that maybe this is available 
in a newer iPhone than I have.   



    From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mike 
B
    Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 7:53 AM
    To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: Described immages



    I just tested this out and apparently if you turn on Image Description in 
Voiceover Recognition this will turn it on for all apps.  The Describe Images 
option on the rotor controls its function per individual application.  If I'm 
wrong someone please correct me.


    Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Malcolm Parfitt 

    To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

    Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2020 2:25 AM

    Subject: Re: Described immages



    If you go into Settings, Accessibility, Voiceover and VoiceOver Recognition 
you will find it there. 



    Not sure what its relationship is with the Rotor, does the Rotor override 
the setting here?

    Malcolm Parfitt



      On 20 Dec 2020, at 02:46, Mike B <mb69ma...@fastmail.com> wrote:

       

      Hi Debbie,



      I don't think there is a setting in Accessibility / Voiceover for turning 
this on and off, at least I couldn't find it.  I believe the only way to do 
this is to add, Describe Images, to the rotor and once it's on the rotor you 
highlight it and flick up and down to turn it on and off for each app.


      Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Debbie Downey 

      To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

      Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2020 6:20 PM

      Subject: Described immages



      Hi,

      I have an iPhone 8 and I did add described images to the roter. However, 
isn’t there somewhere to turn this off under voiceover? I can’t seem to find 
it. Is that feature available in a newer model of the iPhone or am I just 
missing something which is highly likely?

      Thanks!

      Debbie

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