Thank you, for telling about your experiences with the glass, way too expensive for me. As much as I appreciate all the scanning apps, and also scanning software for the computer, it would be really wonderful if being able to read the experation dates on products could be done or worked on. Possibly there may be something I'm not aware of, for example if any of the scanning apps or even softward can read the experation dates, that again I'm not aware of, and or there may be some technical reason why it's not possible. Though I wish being able to read the experation dates could be possible and truly worked on. It's really, really important. Unfortunately even the scanners such as the id mate can't seem to read that information and it's very much needed information, even if you have some general knowledge of how long a product lasts, along with all the other important product information that can be read by the scanning apps, scanning software for the computer and the hand held scanners.
Arlene ----- Original Message ----- From: kitty hevener To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:58 PM Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai Richard, glad to share, thanks. When I saw the virtual demo, I was ready to run right out and purchase, assuming I could find the money somewhere smile!! The price is $3,500.00. Company in FL (is US distributor) has a 10% sale that ends tomorrow. With the glass, the person was able to look around the room and objects such as chairs, doorways, tables, books, etc were identified. The person doing the demo showed us a feature that allows you to augment the info you have by connecting to a human who has access to a part of the ap that allows them to see what you are seeing. This feature reminded me of a AIRA contact. Demonstrator had the unit scan and read a recipe. While not demonstrated, was told that the unit can read columnized material such as newspapers. Asked if I would be able to use the glass to identify a vehicle such as paratransit van, uber, lyft, etc while standing inside a building looking out the window. Demonstrator did not know. Can download the ap and try it free for two weeks. So, I did. My excitement and enthusiasm turned in to genuine frustration and disappointment. I tried scanning a single page document that was able to read with voice dream scanner. I never could get the camera to see all four edges of the document regardless of how I moved it. I finally gave up and just had it read whatever it could. The result was nothing recognizable. I got the same results on a couple other documents. So, moved on to the explorer part of the application. With this feature, could take a picture of object and ap would identify it. Scene descriptions were not accurate, but they sure were interesting!! For instance, one time it referred to my guide dog as a possible bear. The second time it called her a possible large cat!!! I will say that I have never been able to get accurate object identification with seeing ai either. Am thinking that accuracy issues could be caused by the fact that I have no clue how to take pictures, and am using the original Iphone se, all be it with the latest software . I wonder whether the glass requires you to take pictures or if it just automatically somehow identifies the object. Even though I understand envision ai and glass can be used with wifi and hotspots, it still seems like you would be using a lot of data and battery power to constantly be exploring environment. So, that’s as far as I have gotten with envision ai. I know there is a help feature that I need to explore. I just downloaded supersense and have started playing with it. Like Richard, I found the fact that it immediately starts scanning without you doing anything, disconcerting.. From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai Kitty, I think I’m not the only one who would like to know what you thought of the demo of the Envision Glasses? Thanks, Richard, in the U.S. "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy a.. I’m not the card shark b.. My web site, www.turner42.com From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of kitty hevener Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai Richard, I am amazed at how much stuff I have been able to skim and read with Winston’s scanner program. At a minimum, am able to screen mail to find out what it is and determine if human assistance is needede. Guess the thing that attracted my attention to envision ai is the wearable glasses and all that you can do with them. Goint to be checking out a virtual demo tomorrow. From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: comparing envision ai ap to seeing ai I tried Envision AI, and in my opinion, it is not so much better than Seeing AI. In fact, I'm not convinced it is as good. It is different, and has a different focus I think; but for all my scanning needs, a combination of Voice Dream Scanner, and Seeing AI do what I need. Now, SuperSense is yet another player in this field, and it to me seems better than Envision AI, and is on sale this month for half price for the lifetime subscription, which is essentially $50 instead of $100. Or you can do a monthly or I think yearly subscription. I've not decided to buy it since I'm doing fine with Voice Dream Reader and Seeing AI; but I'm thinking about it. Richard "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young." "Why, what did she tell you?" "I don't know, I didn't listen." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy On Dec 17, 2020, at 5:54 PM, kitty hevener <[email protected]> wrote: Would like comments from anyone who has tried both aps. I know that envision ai is giving people a free 14 day trial followed by a monthly subscription of around $13.00 for first year and $20.00 month for subsequent years. That seems kinda expensive to me. Is it significantly better than seeing ai? How? -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: [email protected]. 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