IN fact, there are a lot of YouTube videos put out talking far more extensively 
about beta content that I think truly go overboard, but Apple does nothing to 
lock those down, so a few blind people talking about accessibility issues on a 
list that Apple probably completely ignores isn't going to put anyone at Apple 
nose's out of joint.

Normally, I would be saying not to disclose this information, but it is 
critical information that could impact the use of a product that people paid 
good money for, so it warrants being exposed.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


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-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 10:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5

Thanks, richard. Betas are so widely discussed in so many places, that it seems 
pretty obvious to me that the NDA is a formality at best.


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> On Mar 6, 2021, at 9:29 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Thank you Mary,
> I don't have this device, but I sure as heck would want to know not to update 
> if it breaks accessibility.
> And, if Apple kicks someone off the beta group for something like this, then 
> they are monumentally stupid.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 9:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Smart cooker app does not work with iOS 14.5
> 
> Right. A violation of an NDA that nobody honors, except a few miss guided 
> blind people who think Apple actually cares. I’ll take my chances thank you.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 8:37 AM, Daniel MacDonald 
>> <daniel.angus.macdon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Mary,
>> 
>> This is a violation of Apple’s nondisclosure agreement. Though this is good 
>> info for users of this device, this is Apple Confadential Information. You 
>> might get kicked out of the iOS beta program for this. Read the terms and 
>> conditions for the iOS beta next time. I am as well a beta tester but read 
>> my license agreement(s). 
>> 
>>>> On Mar 4, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> For anyone who has the Bluetooth instant pot, when the version of iOS that 
>>> is not beta, 14.5, comes out, do not update. The app that makes that 
>>> Bluetooth thing work does not work anymore. They need to update it. Since 
>>> they don’t make this pot anymore, my guess is the update won’t be 
>>> happening. I wish I knew where to write. My instant pot is now a 
>>> paperweight thanks to the developers and to iOS.
>>> 
>>> 
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