There are so many variations on Echo devices, that I suspect the Google Home 
might be closest to the Echo Show or the full sized Echo, whatever it is called.
Maybe the Google Home Mini could be compared to the standard echo, but if you 
are comparing the Google Home to the standard, small Echo, that is like apples 
to oranges.

I've not heard either one, but based on my reading, that is what I would 
conclude.


Richard

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-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 8:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Echo

I like my google home better then the echo someone gave me.  I set all the 
bass, mids, and highs, to max settings on both my google home, and my echo, and 
my google home sounds better than my echo.  I also get more music on my google 
home since I can access youtube on my google home, and you can't get access to 
youtube on the echo devices any more.

On 3/7/21, Fanus Buys <buys.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Sieghard and list
> The other thing which disappoints me about the echo show is that I 
> hoped that if one use the translate function or read a Kindle book 
> that the text would show on the screen but this does not happen.
> Regards
> Fanus
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 7:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New Echo
>
> You have to understand the way these devices work.
> The Alexa app on your phone is primarily an interface to adjust 
> settings on your Echo speaker, add skills and so on. Yes, it is to 
> some extend also allowing you to use your iPhone like an Alexa 
> speaker, e.g. ask questions or give commands just as you would to your Echo 
> speaker.
> As far as playing books on your Echo speaker which in fact are playing 
> on your phone like BARD, in this case you basically use yur Echo 
> speaker just like you would any Bluetooth speaker, e.g. you pair it to 
> your phone and the whatever you play on your phone plays via your 
> Echo. But because the Echo is a smartspeaker you can obviously take it 
> one step further, i.e. once a book is playing you can ask your speaker 
> to pause or resume or skip forward or back, on a regular Bluetooth 
> speaker you would do these things by pressing the appropriate button. 
> But I don't think you can pair your Echo to your phone and then tell 
> it to play a BARD book unless you first start the book in your BARD app.
> Audible is a different matter because Amazon owns Audible hence it's 
> very seamlessly integrated into Echo speakers and as long as you are 
> signed into your speaker with the same Amazon account you use for 
> Audible the Alexa assistant has access to your Audible library.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
> deidre muccio
> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 8:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New Echo
>
> Joshua,
> Wow this just opened up   a new door for me! Thank you. I knew I was missing
> something that should’ve been doable. Pairing it, Bluetooth, got it. I 
> might’ve seen that somewhere in settings and wasn’t sure exactly what 
> it would be doing, but if you say it can do it I’m sure it can do 
> it.Admitte admittedly I was confused about why I could run the echo 
> even without Bluetooth since I thought it was indeed linked to my 
> phone via the Alexa app. I don’t have Bluetooth on. But I guess I’ll 
> turn it on if I wanna do something like have it read me a Bard book. Thank 
> you again.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 6, 2021, at 11:03 AM, Joshua Hendrickson <louv...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I can use my google home to easily access bard mobile on my iPhone 
>> if I wish.  I'm sure the echo is the same.  What you do, is first 
>> tell your echo to connect.  It will then say searching, then should 
>> connect to your iPhone.  Note, you must first make sure that you have 
>> paired your echo to your iPhone in order for this to work.  Next, 
>> open bard mobile app on your iPhone.  Hit your play button of your 
>> bard mobile app and your book will begin to play.  Now, stop playback 
>> of your bard book.  Now, tell your echo to play, and your bard book 
>> will begin to play.  You can do things like say stop and your book 
>> will stop, if you tell your echo next or back, then your bard book 
>> will go forward or back by chapter if the mark-up in the book is by chapter. 
>>  Good luck.
>>
>>> On 3/6/21, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>>> You must be buying really tiny cantaloupes *smile* I would say the 
>>> fourth gen Echo is more like a slightly larger tennis ball, sorry, 
>>> I'm not too familiar with baseball, but I think that is more like it.
>>> I bought my wife the version which has a clock display which she 
>>> loves because if she wakes up at night she can just glance at it to 
>>> know what time it is.
>>> At my office I just set up the Echo Show 5 which is the smallest 
>>> Echo with a screen and I primarily bought it because it makes it 
>>> very easy to connect to my ring video doorbell with just a voice command.
>>> However, you still wouldn't be able to just play movies, yes, you 
>>> could set up YouTube I think, but if  you want to use it you would 
>>> be better off with a Google smart speaker with screen since Google 
>>> owns YouTube and it's already integrated. I am not sure about Amazon 
>>> prime Video on the Echo Show, we just never use it for that. With a 
>>> Google speaker with screen, whatever they call it, you can also play 
>>> anything on your iPhone like Netflix or in the TV app and send it to 
>>> the Google via Chromecast.
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>>> Of deidre muccio
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 5:06 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Cc: Daniel Macdonald <daniel.angus.macdon...@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: New Echo
>>>
>>> I believe what I have is an echo fourth generation. It’s about the 
>>> size of a cantaloupe. No it does not have a screen. Maybe I will get 
>>> a little one with a tiny screen or the smaller screen so that I can 
>>> just watch movies without having to touch my phone. Thanks for 
>>> cluing me into what was should’ve been obvious. Anyway I’m playing 
>>> around with this looking at commands seeing I still have a lot of 
>>> work to do to streamline it’s recognizing the specific podcast and 
>>> things like that that I want to play. This morning it’s doing a 
>>> pretty good job of doing it, Meaning I’m getting the syntax down 
>>> that Alexa is best at recognizing. I meant to write listen to movies 
>>> not watch since I wouldn’t be able to see a thing on any screen.
>>> Deirdre
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 3, 2021, at 9:49 PM, Daniel MacDonald 
>>> <daniel.angus.macdon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Helli,
>>>
>>> The dot to dot podcast is a great one to listen to. It[s demos of 
>>> various echo skills. Also for more in-depth demos, the echo show 
>>> podcast is good. It would help us if we new what kind of Echo you 
>>> have. As far as enabling video skills, that is limited to echos with 
>>> screens, the echo show and it’s variants, and the echo spot. The 
>>> echo show comes in five, eight, and ten inch sizes. The only echo 
>>> you can watch Amazon is the echo show. To enable some skills, go to 
>>> the amazon Alexa app to more. You’ll find an area called skills and 
>>> games. You can also enable skills by voice if you know the skill name.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 3, 2021, at 10:15 PM,
>>> <deidreandlou...@gmail.com<mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>>
>>> <deidreandlou...@gmail.com<mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> Someone gave me a gift of a new Echo. Some basic set up has been 
>>> done today.
>>> I've read some helpful info from emails Amazon keeps sending me and 
>>> I've been on the Amazon site which gives a list of things to look 
>>> into. Some of what I am told to do isn't fool proof, perhaps due to 
>>> human error.
>>>               I cant seem to get at the place having to do with 
>>> enabling video such as Prime Video or Netflix. I've got both Apps on 
>>> the phone and naively thought I could use Alexa to activate those 
>>> apps. It doesn't seem to work that way! I followed instructions from 
>>> a hard file as well as where Alexa tole me to look, that were 
>>> supposed to get me to TV and Movies under Skills and Games, I think, 
>>> but I never got there.
>>> Under the section in settings for Communication, I did check off 
>>> various music services and podcasts and Tune In stations I listen to 
>>> and Alexa was able to find those. I can't however find the place to 
>>> do that with video, TV and/or movies I am subscribed to.
>>> I really did imagine that I could tell Alexa to do things like open 
>>> Bard and continue reading what I was reading last. I assumed the 
>>> Echo device was totally privy to everything on my phone, as if it 
>>> had a mirror image of it.
>>> Hmmmm, I'm smiling. Still I did manage to do a "drop in" message to 
>>> my brother's own Echo and he was indeed notified he had a message 
>>> and when he asked Alexa to play it, there I was on a live recording 
>>> which is what I chose to use as the medium.
>>>               I look forward to learning to do as much as I can with 
>>> the Echo "hands off.
>>>               Any tips anyone can provide about which sources are 
>>> most reliable and easy to follow would be greatly appreciated. This 
>>> will take a systematic approach to getting things set up at more 
>>> than the most basic level.
>>>
>>>               Deidre
>>>               Deidre
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