Richard,
It sounds like a state with ideal weather. I spent a weekend in Portland in 
June several years ago while presenting at a guide dog conference. The weather 
was great. No humidity.


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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 8:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
public when active outside

In my part of the state, we had about 8 to 10 inches of snow this year, which 
is highly unusual.  I think the cities main elevation  is around 150 feet.
The hills around here can get up to 1000 or 1200 feet and get a bit more snow, 
but again that is very rare.
We have gone several years with no snow and only a handful of nights that got 
down to freezing.

And, I am not one to wear headphones outside anyway.

The number of days that stay at or below even 35° are very few.
Summers, we rarely get to 100.  So, in reality, around Portland, they are 
probably going to survive the elements if one wanted to walk around with them.

I plan to use them on our back patio when the weather is comfortable and dry 
and I don’t have to be digging up weeds or pruning roses, etc.

Later,



Richard

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 5:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
public when active outside

Richard,

In your state,
Don’t you get feet thick drifts of snow and freezing temps during winter months?

So I’d be guessing the airpods max wouldn’t’ do well if uncovered and outside 
during these times,

Min dyou the other end of the scale probably stands aw well,
I’d be interested to know how they do for the winter months.


From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, 30 March 2021 6:56 am
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
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public when active outside

One old curmudgeon to another, I get it completely.
Living in Oregon, I would never even think of it outside of my own yard.

Now, as for keeping your ears warm, have you checked the safe temperature range 
for these bad boys?
You are probably OK in Austin, but someone in the north, or in Canada, etc., 
would probably damage them unless they had a good hood on, which of course 
would defeat the transparency mode….

Since you have a dog guide, you are much safer than those of us who use canes 
in that case anyway.

Enjoy,
Richard

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Nalda
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 10:51 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
public when active outside

Well, it looks like I’m probably the only one stubborn enough To even try to 
want to wear them about, but Austin does have dedicated bike lines, and as far 
as somebody write down the sidewalk and hit me I’ll guarantee you with my 
girth, that little bicycle is going to go down! Another thing I wanted to 
mention about why am so hell bent crazy over wearing the Max around over the 
Pro’s, is battery life. Being like 5 times longer!  Another luxurious feature 
that you have is instant control over content volume, and for that matter, 
content play back, no Siri or pinching needed! So to me it’s also a UX feature. 
But I’m glad that this has brought such  a vital  discussion! As for the 
afterShox, or bone conduction, no way for me, as I am just too picky about 
Fidelity, even with voices, and phone calls! And the other sporty options I 
would not pursue it unless they had both transparency and noise canceling. But 
I might consider going back to just using the pros to run around with. I can 
always leave the big boys at home, if I think I’m going to encounter weather, 
although, when it was cold, they did keep my ears warm! So for me, it boils 
down to the convenience of having direct control of volume, and content play 
back.In other words I guess I’m just an old curmudgeon who chooses to live on 
the edge for his own comfort and convenience. Like I said I’m enjoying the 
conversation
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On Mar 29, 2021, at 12:34 PM, Richard Turner 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


Great, so you will be dry when you get run over; how nice, 😉

Just kidding, I know you folks are smarter than to try crossing a street with 
these on.

But, what about bicycles?



Later,





Richard



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Yes, I'd definitely not encourage anyone to take these head phones anywhere if 
they're worried about them getting wet, but as Pete says here in Austin there 
are plenty of days every year where you can safely take these outside and 
absolutely not worry about them getting rained on.



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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Pete 
Nalda

Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 11:53 AM

To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

Subject: Re: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in 
public when active outside



Yeah. Good points about water resistance, though, here in Austin, it’s kind of 
hard to get caught in a downpour. It can even be cloudy and not rain



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> On Mar 29, 2021, at 11:34 AM, Andy Baracco 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

>

> I do not plan to wear them outdoors in public because I am afraid of someone 
> trying to take them from me.  Also, I do not believe that they are water 
> resistant.

>

> Andy

>

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Nalda" 
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> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>

> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 1:14 AM

> Subject: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in

> public when active outside

>

>

> Ok. Given the fact transparency is so well done, are any VI folks here brave 
> enough to wear them walking around?  To me, it might be triggering fodder for 
> those with their own moral high ground. It’s not like everyone is listening 
> to Dubstep with the volume at 90%!  Opinions welcomed!  And without opening 
> Pandora’s box, I’ll admit, I’m kind of a freedom over compliance kind of 
> person.

>

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