HI, You are not alone. The Transition to UEB from Hadley is very good, but here are some pointers.
I started with learning UEB in 2015, or maybe 2014 when I knew it would be the default format after January of 2016. It wasn't until dealing with MBraile and their support of the UEB Hashtag, a couple months ago that I finally got it into my brain the difference. UEB calls dots 3,4,5,6 the Number Indicator. Because, in braille, a through j doubles as 1 through 0 so you have to have something that indicates it isn't a letter but a number. In print, that is no problem because numbers are already distinct. So, the "number sign, or hanshtag" had to have a braille equivalent thanks muchly to all the social media stuff. So, they adopted 4,5,6 then 1,4,5,6 as the Hashtag/Number sign. If you were hash tagging a number, then it would be 4,5,6, then 1,4,5,6, then 3,4,5,6. Isn't this fun? In UEB, things like time, dates, etc., require a fresh number indicator after punctuation. So to write 3:00 PM it would be dots 3,4,5,6, c, colon, then the number indicator again dots 3,4,5,6, then j j, PM. If I remember correctly, currency doesn't need the extra number indicator for the cents. So write the dollar sign, dot 4, s, number indicator and your numbers, period cents. I hope that helps, Richard Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry. My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 2:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Help with Voice Dream Writer Ah, OK, I see my problem. I was using 3,4,5,6 for the number sign. Even after reading your email the first time, I was still typing in 4,5,6 followed by 3,4,5,6 and still not getting the number sign. Now that I'm typing 4,5,6 followed by 1,4,5,6 it's working just as you explained below! I'm no expert on UEB, but I'm surprised 3,4,5,6 isn't the number sign. OK, here's another question. How do I type time in UEB? When I type 3,4,5,6 followed by 12 followed by dots 2,5 for the colon and then a pair of j's, I don't get 12:00 but rather 12:jj. Maybe I need a pointer to some documentation on UEB! -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 2:21 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: Help with Voice Dream Writer OK, I just tested with that setup. The "number sign" or "Hashtag" is dots 4,5,6, then dots, 1,4,5,6. Do that once, immediately followed by the words you want in your heading level 1 and hit a hard return. Do that number sign twice then the heading words for a heading level 2, and so on. Make sure you get a hard return after the heading text. Then, open the outline and set it to lowest level headings to confirm it worked. Then, when you export it as rtf (which is what I recommend, the document will have those marked up as headings. I haven't made a thorough recording on walking through all of that, but there may be one on ApleVis. HTH, Richard Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry. My web site, www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C92daedd964e94e6c8dd408d8f6e6f483%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637530819091421499%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=b%2B7hP3JBTooYVOCJtu31%2BDma4RkakYPIHIyDOd5UxEg%3D&reserved=0> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 12:17 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: Help with Voice Dream Writer I am using English UEB under the system heading in the braille settings for VoiceOver. I thought I mentioned this in my message, but I am trying it right now with Braille Screen Input on my iPhone. BTW, later I want to try it with my K-380 and my Orbit Writer, but I'd like to start with Braille Screen Input. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 2:11 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: Help with Voice Dream Writer Should have also asked, are you using Apple Braille Screen input as well as if you are using UEB. Richard Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to realize that you are in a hurry. My web site, www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C92daedd964e94e6c8dd408d8f6e6f483%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637530819091431455%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=KhcZ84JQGrm7MUn6%2BIl%2BO1UjUXDxdjo2gcQnUFCmnyI%3D&reserved=0> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 12:03 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Help with Voice Dream Writer I'm playing around with Voice dream Writer, and I was wondering if there were any tutorials or places to go for help with the app. Right now I'm trying to use it with Braille Screen Input, and this is probably more of a BSI question then a Writer question, but I can't figure out how to insert a # (number sign) with BSI so I can mark something as a header in mark down. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. 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