Agreed. I have been a cane user since I was 8 years old, and once I lost my vision when I was 14, I felt my cane gave me a great deal of independence. I have been a guide dog user for the last 23 years, and rarely use my cane, but I always carry a telescoping cane in my back pack for emergencies. The key is independence, so how ever you reach it, that is what matters. You should not be ashamed of how you get there. After all, in this case, it isn’t the journey that matters but the fact you got there independently is what truly matters. I love my guide dog, I’m on my forth, and for me, a guide dog is supreme for moving through the world, and also you are never alone. That’s just my two cents.
Best, Juan From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 8:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post Hi, Sieghard, I also am never embarrassed by my cane. If people are staring at me, I feel that they are either awed, amazed, or wondering what I am doing! Haha! In addition, I feel very positive about using my cane and that we are educating the general public on how independent we can be. I have no issue with people using guide dogs because they are absolutely wonderful and we are very fortunate to have choices in life. Take care. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! On May 25, 2021, at 11:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: I agree that a cane does not help if somebody has no sense of direction, but to be embarrassed by it to make is not an issue and I think nobody should be embarrassed about whatever it is they need to be independent. This would be like somebody in a wheelchair being embarrassed that they have to use a wheelchair or somebody with a hearing aid being embarrassed they need one of those. How about people who lost a limb and have a prosthetic arm or leg, should they be embarrassed? The fact is that we all are who we are and if you are embarrassed by the cane then where does that stop? Would you be embarrassed if you had to wear thick glasses and how about that future super backpack, people will still know that you are blind and the smart, high-tech content of said backpack will require all sorts of sensors and cameras to function which maybe more or less noticeable by others. And in any case, what do I care what others think? Maybe I care to a degree when it comes to people close to me, but if I were walking down the street and a bunch of idiots were openly pointing at me and laughing their heads off because of my cane then I would maybe pity them, but I sure wouldn't feel embarrassed by it. maybe From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of goshawk on horseback Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 11:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post Importance: High completely agree! I know it's handy for giving the sighted wallies who don't look where they are going a good ankle bashing, but as I think I said before, if one has no sense of direction, the cane is of very limited use for actually getting about. Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: marco.c...@gmail.com <mailto:marco.c...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 11:22 AM Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post Completely agree. To many people in this world seem to have their canes attached to their personalities. A cane to me is like having to carry around some surgical implement. The quicker we can replace it, the better I say. Marco From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of alia robinson Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 7:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post Importance: High why is it ridiculous? sighted people get directions on their phone, and are told what to do at every turn. I personally was always embarrassed by a cane, and allergic to dogs. if tech can help us out why not? I for one hated my cane, loathed it because it made me feel different than my sighted friends at school. I live in a rural area, like to walk close arm in arm with my husband, and my cane is in a closet, and has been for years. If I could use something techy I would be far more excited about travelling alone. 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