Simon, Can you give me a reliable way to say, open a 5 page document in Word on the iPhone and add something at the top of page 4? I'll take it in word or in Pages. VoiceOver, in my experience, never gives reliable position information. Yes, it is subjective, which is why I used I statements. No one as yet, has shown me a reliable way to do that.
Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner website: www.turner42.com On Aug 23, 2021, at 7:58 PM, Simon A Fogarty <[email protected]> wrote: Richard, I find this to be a very objective view on both word and pages on the IOS platforms, I use both products and have no issue with either., I will say that on the computer word processing is a lot better and you do have more ability to work with documents But you can work on the phone or better on an iPad with word and or pages, But it’s not what I would call the best way to do it. Again I believe it’s up to the individual how they work with the product you have. So each to their own on judgement calls. From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, 24 August 2021 2:07 am To: [email protected] Subject: Re: A question about office app Using VoiceOver, with a Microsoft 365 subscription you technically have editing capibility. But, in reality, you will not be able to keep track accurately of where you are in documents, and especially tables. Maybe on a Mac, I do not know as I have never owned a Mac; but I know it is truly unreliable in iOS and always has been. Pages has the same issue where VoiceOver and knowing where you are is concerned on iPhones. Computers are still the absolute best way to edit documents. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner website: www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc61ad83e18c246a3da9a08d966ab1c40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637653707381633614%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Rvimz31mROkwdoOed%2Bet0%2F4LWSrl7HyR2UJpjCEu5MU%3D&reserved=0> On Aug 23, 2021, at 4:19 AM, Rafał Marzec <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I have received an office document but I’m not able to edit it I’m opening it in office app but there is a table and not all the areas of the table are available Sent from my iPhone On 23 Aug 2021, at 10:59 am, Simon A Fogarty <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Office is available from Microsoft for the IOS platform, Plus there is also pages which is apples version of word, And is free -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Rafal Marzec Sent: Monday, 23 August 2021 9:18 pm To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: A question about office app Hey everyone Is there any office app for iPhone which is accessible for reading and editing documents I’ve checked now Microsoft office app but navigating in document is terrible and some parts of the document even not appears for VoiceOver Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> The archives for this list can be searched at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C84742ef68f654ec3008308d96627dfc8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637653143710800745%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=RfXeJH5dzIF0pZKBHadAR2XKVonEiSMp6amAvIuLSug%3D&reserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc61ad83e18c246a3da9a08d966ab1c40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637653707381633614%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=XDejEVwoXLPgT%2BjxhG5%2FZrnszqX3Y%2BhNolzgltbUmdw%3D&reserved=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FC8CF2A0B-FFBC-4DEE-BDAE-9B3004327E10%2540gmail.com&data=04%7C01%7C%7C84742ef68f654ec3008308d96627dfc8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637653143710800745%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=I0xTegeNfTKzKxO41aWjmm7cWb3pBdaeLu55rYikibc%3D&reserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FC8CF2A0B-FFBC-4DEE-BDAE-9B3004327E10%2540gmail.com&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc61ad83e18c246a3da9a08d966ab1c40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637653707381643576%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=kX0DmOTtuW%2Fhpb9oHw8IkmH3F3NDQtJC3VAV%2B8MLKyQ%3D&reserved=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> The archives for this list can be searched at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C84742ef68f654ec3008308d96627dfc8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637653143710800745%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=RfXeJH5dzIF0pZKBHadAR2XKVonEiSMp6amAvIuLSug%3D&reserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc61ad83e18c246a3da9a08d966ab1c40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637653707381643576%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=LCwenP7NN3Utlem0kt1Y8wEI6HKPi25CP7S5GGMUbcM%3D&reserved=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FSY4PR01MB7026246683E6F68CD604DC878AC49%2540SY4PR01MB7026.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com&data=04%7C01%7C%7C84742ef68f654ec3008308d96627dfc8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637653143710800745%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=q%2BiJwibls4l9gNhKrKsqUQoTb4Lutle1nu7Wh2HvS%2FM%3D&reserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FSY4PR01MB7026246683E6F68CD604DC878AC49%2540SY4PR01MB7026.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc61ad83e18c246a3da9a08d966ab1c40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637653707381643576%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=AlrGNubwoMNSFHL%2BOjfpOaUtDqwlWhuQ296Y83ekXzE%3D&reserved=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> The archives for this list can be searched at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C84742ef68f654ec3008308d96627dfc8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637653143710800745%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=RfXeJH5dzIF0pZKBHadAR2XKVonEiSMp6amAvIuLSug%3D&reserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc61ad83e18c246a3da9a08d966ab1c40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637653707381653535%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=b2tSRqYBqZGp61OjAH0vSue2XbunFmSToNh9wVvCuoE%3D&reserved=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F871AB206-0335-4268-BB5E-6A6A1713C33C%2540gmail.com&data=04%7C01%7C%7C84742ef68f654ec3008308d96627dfc8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637653143710800745%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=rccoAMhVi85GZ6Q5HKAWhzOpt%2FrsB8HH1wLndPckyqk%3D&reserved=0<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F871AB206-0335-4268-BB5E-6A6A1713C33C%2540gmail.com&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc61ad83e18c246a3da9a08d966ab1c40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637653707381653535%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=bqr0o04Eu5xpPxcdFh2WR7GBSri%2Fy9F05JTN7HL88H0%3D&reserved=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc61ad83e18c246a3da9a08d966ab1c40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637653707381653535%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=b2tSRqYBqZGp61OjAH0vSue2XbunFmSToNh9wVvCuoE%3D&reserved=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR17MB45138F0332000B1B8856BE43B7C49%40MW4PR17MB4513.namprd17.prod.outlook.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FMW4PR17MB45138F0332000B1B8856BE43B7C49%2540MW4PR17MB4513.namprd17.prod.outlook.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc61ad83e18c246a3da9a08d966ab1c40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637653707381663485%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=4DT9%2BRvw0bd8ce%2BQjjFpAfi67JCzDNoWvr%2Ft8TWAamY%3D&reserved=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: [email protected]. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at [email protected] The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc61ad83e18c246a3da9a08d966ab1c40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637653707381663485%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=93rttR4FTtmvWkzecUCD7r87wZxZsR32z%2FpRz%2BF%2FL0s%3D&reserved=0> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SY4PR01MB7026CC4A42571247389EE2838AC59%40SY4PR01MB7026.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2FSY4PR01MB7026CC4A42571247389EE2838AC59%2540SY4PR01MB7026.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dfooter&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc61ad83e18c246a3da9a08d966ab1c40%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637653707381673440%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=LAGayEvi%2FX3R8kl4E11%2BZK7eDcawpMTqlz4jjw6AfGc%3D&reserved=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: [email protected]. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at [email protected] The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR17MB4513494FD98C913EB254CAE1B7C59%40MW4PR17MB4513.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.
