O, I agree Alan, I always have it on as well for those times when either my concentration wanes, or I don’t quite catch it because of background noise, waiting a moment for that confirmation is fabulous. .
Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 8:53 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: At last a VoiceOver voice which distinguishes between N and M! Hi Richard, I understand a long delay before providing phonetic feedback could dissuade one from using it. Personally, Samantha enhanced has very little delay and I'd never type on an on screen keyboard with phonetic feedback turned off. There are just too many letters that sound alike. But as I said, to each his own. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2Fqtex0l&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6e848c64213742fcc0ec08d97eaa2c87%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637680091648909291%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=CegmtttzK7dKkZ3kUCSw6c62wj%2BKiNXSKE2d633%2F12g%3D&reserved=0> for iOS ________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Richard Turner <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 10:36:03 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: At last a VoiceOver voice which distinguishes between N and M! Alan, some of the voices have a very long pause before the fonetic feedback is spoken. I personally find Tom Enhanced to speak m and n quite clearly; but everyone's hearing is very different and with some hearing loss, depending on where in the frequency range that is; male or female voices can be harder to understand. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner website: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com> On Sep 23, 2021, at 8:30 AM, Alan Lemly <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi Harry, I'm glad you found a voice that works better. I'm curious why you didn't turn on phonetic feedback under Settings, Accessibility, Voiceover, Typing, and Phonetic feedback. I have that setting set to characters and phonetics so that when I'm touch typing a word, Voiceover speaks the letter and if I pause also speaks its phonetic equivalent. It's hard to mistake Mike for November with phonetic feedback turned on. But to each his own. Glad you found a voice that works better for you. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone with Outlook<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2Fqtex0l&data=04%7C01%7C%7C6e848c64213742fcc0ec08d97eaa2c87%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637680091648919251%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=a8jTAZyDBtmsSNtswRxaa%2FGuZkpmh0hL%2Fgv3zutHfeE%3D&reserved=0> for iOS ________________________________ From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 2:39:53 AM To: Abridged Recipients <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: At last a VoiceOver voice which distinguishes between N and M! I’m in the UK and have so far been using Siri female voice for VoiceOver. 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