Would you mind kindly using more descriptive subject lines for better
sorting? Thanks much for your initial impressions of the new
iPhone.--Joe

On 9/28/21, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
> Well Mr. Ring,
>
> You must not have bothered to read my original post.
> I started out with:
> OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday
> cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra
> Blue, 256GB.
> (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a
> link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.)
>
>
> It was intended to get people’s attention who knew that I was supposed to
> receive the phone on Friday … but you don’t give a damn about that.  Though,
> it got your attention. 😊.
>
> You seem to just like being critical.
>
> So enjoy your life of criticism while I’l enjoy my new phone and sense of
> humor.  Sadly, people have taken the thread completely off topic which the
> moderator seems also to not give a damn about.  So, there you have it.
>
> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
> richr...@gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 9:42 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
>
> This is just about the stupidest subject line I’ve ever seen!
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 11:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
>
> And have you checked under Notifications > Mail > Customize Notifications
> that a sound is selected for each of your accounts?
> Also, double check in Notifications > Mail that banners are in fact selected
> and also display on lock screen if that is what you want.
> For some reason my mail sounds were turned off after the update to iOS 15
> and I had to reenable them, but on my iPhone 11 Mail and other notifications
> are all coming in as they As they should whether the phone is locked or not.
> Keep in mind that now with the notification summary option and the various
> focus options this may also have an effect if maybe you accidently turned on
> notification summary and Mail is going into the summary.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Cristobal Muñoz
> Sent: September 28, 2021 9:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
>
> Again, if the phone on iOS 15 is locked, then notifications come in. If I’m
> using the phone however, nothing. So… if I have both phone’s on my person
> and they’re both locked, then I now get alerts on both devices. The iPhone
> on iOS 15 (that is locked). And the other iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:06 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
>
> Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said you
> aren't getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones?
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: September 27, 2021 10:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
>
> Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about on my
> business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts in stereo
> (one phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple pushes out a new iOS
> release addressing it.
>
> Cristóbal
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
>
> I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made
> sure my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the
> email sound I have set for my personal account.
> I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it show up
> in Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just to test it and
> sent myself another message with the subject "Another Test".
> When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard Weitzel,
> Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I didn't
> actually write anything in the message body.
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: September 27, 2021 9:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
>
> The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in the
> AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, notifications are
> silent. I don’t know if for sighted people the banner comes up, but with
> VoiceOver at least, you are left oblivious as to any sort of incoming
> notification. In my case, I deal with time sensitive emails so it was
> turning into a bigtime annoyance for me. I thought it might have to do with
> the new focus settings in iOS 15, but after monkeying around with that for a
> while and other settings like having VoiceOver speak notifications, nothing
> changed.
> I finally called Apple Accessibility on Friday after the work week was done
> and explained my issue. Turns out, it’s a known bug and they’re “workig on
> it.” Not much Solace since that pretty much means wait till iOS 15.1 comes
> out.
> Anyway, he documented my call and bug report. He said the more people
> contact them about it, the better.  So… get on it people and bug Apple about
> it if you’re experiencing this too.
> If the phone’s locked or even if I’m on a phone call, the notifications do
> come in. It’s just when it’s unlocked and in use that there is no sound
> whatsoever. Again, no idea if the banners are still popping up, but even
> with VoiceOver set to speak incoming notifications, it doesn’t’ help.
> Other than that, can’t say iOS 15 has been otherwise buggy for me.
>
>
>
>
> Cristóbal
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:13 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
>
> I find that iOS 15 has very few bugs or at least very few serious bugs. I
> have an iPhone 11 so I don't know if other hardware has different issues,
> but I have no problems with the wallet, no issues with the share sheet and I
> just fixed the app switcher problem where flicking left sometimes doesn't
> say which app you are on by turning off Reduced Motion, this can be found in
> Voiceover Settings > Motion
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Esther Levegnale
> Sent: September 27, 2021 1:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
>
> how cool is that! I hope you enjoy your new phone. A friend of mine told me
> not to get it yet because all the bugs need to be ironed out in 15. I want
> to get the new phone that is labeled as Pro Max. Esther
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>
> On Sep 26, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner
> <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> 
> OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday
> cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra
> Blue, 256GB.
> (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a
> link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.)
>
> Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my
> package would be delivered today, not Monday.
>
> We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless
> data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be
> similar…
> You know what happens when you assume?...
>
> After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple
> Accessibility.
> I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with us
> through this process.  Of course, it failed for her too.  Then, she had us
> reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process
> went very smoothly.  I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch,
> but it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over.
>
> I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping.  It is
> quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip.
>
> I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely.  The
> case came with a surprise; a stand.  It is like the decrotive plate holders,
> a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges at one end
> and when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice angle in
> landscape mode.
>
> I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below.
>
> The Sound.  Well, I was expecting better sound.  I was not expecting this
> quality of sound.  When in that little stand that came with the case,
> sitting at my desk about 2 feet in front of the phone, the stereo separation
> is very clear and the sound quality is quite impressive.
>
> Now, my SE 2020 I got last year, had significantly better sound than the SE
> first generation and of course, had the stereo if you had your nose about on
> the display.  The 13 Pro sounds way better than the SE second generation.
> Bigger, clearer, and while the phone is only slightly longer than the SE
> second generation, the separation is noticeably better.
> I never heard the 11 or 12 pro, so maybe they are as good, but I’m quite
> impressed.
>
> Setting up Face ID was very easy.  VoiceOver walks you through the setup
> with good directions.  Best yet, at the end of the setup, it lets you know
> that the requires attention is turned off for VoiceOver users but you can
> turn it on if you wish.  I wouldn’t do that.  That requires very specific
> focus rather than just some of your face being seen by the camera.  It makes
> unlocking the phone quite fast.
>
> I won’t guess at battery life for at least a week after I’ve used it a fair
> amount.
>
> My wife wathced a video on inserting the Nano SIM from my SE 2020 into the
> 13 Pro because she could not get it to fit.  It goes in upside down from the
> way it was in the SE 2020.  Then, it works fine.  I am on Xfinity, and I
> could make calls, receive calls, etc., once the Sim was in and I rebooted to
> make sure.
> I will call them later to see if they need anything like the IMEI number,
> etc.
>
> I’m having a few issues with mBraille but that is probably me getting used
> to the larger screen, but I’m not sure yet.
>
> I used Super LIDAR from SuperSense briefly this morning.  Very promising.
> One thing it does that might be nice for low-vision/blind going somewhere on
> their own, if it sees a person without a mask, it will tell you “person
> without a mask.”
> I think I’d want a lanyard, harness, something that would make it so I don’t
> have to hold the phone pointed ahead of me to use that feature, or any other
> LIDAR feature.
>
> I have some settings to still go through and some apps to log into again,
> but so far, I really like the phone a lot and know I won’t need or want
> another phone for several years.
>
> Now, if you don’t know about Virginia, read the article at Wikipedia: Yes,
> Virginia, there is a Santa Claus -
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> Richard
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
> – Jane Wagner
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