Hi Carolyn,

Try turning it off in VoiceOVer Settings rather than the rotor or Quick 
Settings. Maybe then it will stick. It's in Audio.

HTH,
Anna


> On Oct 23, 2021, at 12:44 PM, Carolyn <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I can’t get it to stay off. I keep turning it off, but it is still on. Anyone 
> have any ideas? It would be just oh so nice, if settings would not change 
> with updates. 
>  
> My sister was here, and she had some kind of iPhone, a little bigger than my 
> 11; I thought maybe 6+. Anyway, she is to the point that she can’t update, 
> still uses maps and stuff. I wonder if her maps are up to date. She uses an 
> atlas a lot too, could be it’s more reliable than the phone. Her phone seemed 
> so strange with a Home Button. 
> 
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