Sieghard,

No, I do not wear skinny jeans. I am a powerlifter with big legs from
years of lifting heavy iron.  I wear basic dress pants from the
military or tactical pants. these are roomy with extra pockets. The
pockets with these pants easily fit an iPhone, battery charger, and a
pocket speaker, if I decided to carry one.  What does not fit is Beats
over the ear headphones. I attach the case to my belt with a carabiner
clip. This allows me to have all the elements for a digital lifestyle
while going hands free with no backpack or bag.

Kelly



On 8/30/22, Kelly Pierce <kellyt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Caroline,
>
> The iPhone 13 mini has significantly more battery life than the iPhone
> 7 or 8 and more battery life than the 12 Mini. Last year I compared
> the 13 Mini’s battery life to that of other iPhones, as some on the
> list were parroting technology journalists who said the 13 Mini had
> poor battery life but gave no data to support their claims. If you are
> concerned about battery life, buy a Slim II by Poweradd. It is a 5,000
> mA battery that can charge an iPhone Mini two times before needing a
> recharge.  It comes with a carrying case where I have added a
> lightning charging cable.  I paid $11 without the cable.  The battery
> is the size of two lighters for smoking or a thick lipstick tube. It
> fits in most pockets.
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> On 8/29/22, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@outlook.com> wrote:
>> Yes, it'll only be possible on newer phones. All of the options I
>> mentioned
>> below will require new hardware components, including the under the glass
>> tough ID.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 5:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> So, if Apple gets it, it will be on newer phones, not likely to be
>> possible
>> in an update.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 5:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> On some Android devices you do have touch ID under the glass. You also
>> have
>> touch ID on the back of the phone or as part of the lock button on the
>> side
>> of the phone.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 1:33 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> Is touch ID without Home Button available yet?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 2:17 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> I don't want to return to a home button either, but you can have touch ID
>> without a home button. I do prefer touch ID over face ID, although not
>> enough to keep me from getting a phone I would otherwise prefer.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
>> Carolyn
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 9:13 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> No, the 13 mini does not have touch ID, thank goodness, since I do not
>> want
>> to return to Home Button.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 7:30 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> I have not used a 13 mini.  I am guessing that it doesn't have touch id.
>> That would probably be my biggest complaint because I love the touch ID
>> on
>> my S E 2020.
>>
>> How much does the 13 mini normally cost for the base model?  And, is the
>> 13
>> mini really water resistant up to 36 feet under water for 30 minutes?
>> That
>> is amazing.
>>
>> Sieghard , Thanks for your information.
>>
>> James B
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 4:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> Apart from going to a Pro Max phone which has better and louder speakers
>> I
>> doubt you would notice much of a difference. If you want good sound use
>> your
>> iPhone with a good headset or speaker.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
>> bentleyj1...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 2:18 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> Which phone has the best sound?
>>
>> James B
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 3:58 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> The size difference is minor, I have put the dimensions and weights as
>> well
>> as IPX rating below as this can be easily looked up by doing a Google
>> search
>> for "iPhone 13 Mini specifications" or "iPhone SE 2022 specifications",
>> but
>> let's not forget that despite the slightly smaller size of the iPhone 13
>> Mini it has a larger screen than the iPhone SE 2022 and it is
>> significantly
>> more water proof.
>> In terms of actual difference, the iPhone SE 2022 is just over a quarter
>> inch taller and about an eighth of an inch wider.
>> The difference in thickness is so minor, 0.35mm, that it can hardly be
>> expressed in inches, but for those who really care, this would be 0.0138
>> inches, in fractions it would be 1/72 of an inch.
>> Also the weight is only 4 grams different, once again not anything you
>> could
>> ever notice if you held one phone in one hand and the other in your other
>> hand.
>> Of course there is the silly home button which some people think they
>> can't
>> live without, but of course will have to live without in a few years
>> after
>> the shiny new iPhone SE 2022 they may buy now has to be replaced and
>> there
>> will just not be another model with home button. As far as I am concerned
>> I
>> agree with Kelly and I'd take the increased water resistance and newer
>> design with larger OLED screen of the iPhone 13 Mini any day over the SE
>> 2022, but then again I wouldn't buy either one since I hate having a
>> phone
>> in my pocket even one as small as the 13 Mini. In fact, I didn't even
>> carry
>> my iPhone 4S in my pocket and it was even smaller than that. I always wear
>> a
>> belt so a belt hip holster for me is simply the way to go. Here now those
>> specs:
>>
>> iPhone 13 mini
>> 5.18 x 2.53 x 0.3 inches and 4.94 ounces
>> 131.5 x 64.2 x 7.65 mm and 140 grams
>> Rated IP68 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 6 metres up to 30
>> minutes)
>>
>> iPhone SE
>> 5.45 x 2.65 x 0.29 inches and 5.08 ounces
>> 138.4 x 67.3 x 7.3 mm and 144 grams
>> Rated IP67 dust/water resistant (maximum depth of 1 metres  up to 30
>> minutes)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
>> Kelly
>> Pierce
>> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 12:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: thoughts on SE3
>>
>> The phone is not small. If you want a smaller size phone, then go for the
>> 13
>> Mini like I did.  I can carry the Mini easily in any pocket.
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/27/22, CJ & AA MAY <chrisalis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm very pleased with mine. I needed to upgrade as my old Se was
>>> having battery issues and had resigned myself to having to have an
>>> iPhone without a home button so was pleasantly surprised. The battery
>>> life is certainly much better but I've not experimented to find out
>>> just how long it does last. But when I ran Duo Lingo on my old phone,
>>> within a morning I was getting a low battery message whereas I now
>>> very rarely get such a message and only after heavy useage.
>>>
>>> Alison
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
>>> Dennis Long
>>> Sent: 26 August 2022 18:36
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: thoughts on SE3
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What are people's thoughts on the SE3  that's the one that came out
>>> this year.  Thanks.
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