Hi Dan,

First of all, this is not an accessibility issue since when this wasn't working 
for me it also wasn't working if I turned Voiceover off altogether.
Secondly, I assume this is already fixed when iOS 16.1 comes out since for me 
it works fine and I am on iOS 16.1 Public Beta 4. I assume public beta 5 comes 
out this week and that iOS 16.1 will be officially released during the last 
week of October or the first week of November.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dan Yates
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022 6:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: "a question about updating

I am running the latest update, and Siri continues to not do the song 
identification. When I hear a song playing, and I ask Siri to name this song, 
she will say “let me listen “and after about 10 seconds, will say I can’t 
recognize songs right now try again in a bit. I’ve written to Apple 
accessibility and haven’t gotten anywhere. I hope they get this fixed. 
Dan


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 10, 2022, at 1:24 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Maybe this is a fix in iOS 16.1 then, I am running the iOS 16.1 Public Beta 
> and Siri has been working fine for the last couple of weeks identifying 
> songs. If I hear a song and want to know what it is I just ask "Siri, what 
> song is that", Siri will say "Let me listen" and after maybe 8 or 10 seconds 
> I get the answer.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Donna Casteen
> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 2:15 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
> 
> Joshua, I have no need to know what song is playing on my phone. The song 
> name & singer/band are there on the screen. I need to know song info when 
> listen to the radio, out in public in a store/restaurant, etc.
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> Yes.  I'm talking about on my phone.  I have no need to have my 
>> phone identify songs if they aren't playing on my phone.  Sorry this 
>> problem is happening though.
>> 
>>>> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Are you talking about music playing on your phone?
>>> I think the rest of us are talking about music playing on another 
>>> source and your phone/Siri, is listening to the song off say a radio or 
>>> computer, ....
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”
>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf 
>>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 12:31 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>> 
>>> I have no such problems.  I tried this morning with both apple 
>>> music, and youtube music and Siri was able to identify what song was 
>>> playing with no issues.  I have a 13 pro max updated to the latest version 
>>> of IOS.
>>> 
>>>> On 10/9/22, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Apple may use Shazam for their song identification, but opening 
>>>> Shazam on my
>>>> 13 pro identifies the song immediately.
>>>> Siri does not.
>>>> So something on the Apple side is broken between Siri and Shazam, 
>>>> but you can get the results you want simply by asking Siri to open 
>>>> Shazam instead of asking it to identify the song.
>>>> At least until Apple sorts out whatever they did.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>>> with it.”
>>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the 
>>>> Universe
>>>> 
>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf 
>>>> Of Donna Casteen
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2022 11:54 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>>> 
>>>> Gera, Apple uses Shazam for song identification. A few days ago 
>>>> there was an update to Shazam. For me, strangely my Apple watch 
>>>> running IOS 9, Siri will immediately identify a song every time. 
>>>> But if I use my iPhone 11 running
>>>> 16.02 & the most recent update to Shazam, Siri will not identify 
>>>> any song.
>>>> 
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Several questions for those who have trouble identifying songs: 
>>>>> is Siri linked to spotify? I’m not subscribed to Apple Music but 
>>>>> to Spotify, thus don’t know if this would make a difference.
>>>>> Also are you identiyfing the song through the button within 
>>>>> Control Pannel?
>>>>> And about what you get within the Shazam screen apart from the 
>>>>> lyrics, you’ve got to link it first), you get the chance to open 
>>>>> the song right in Spotify!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gera
>>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
>>>>> 
>>>>>> El 9 oct 2022, a la(s) 7:46 a.m., Donna Casteen 
>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Strange thing, if I use Siri on my iPhone 11 I get, Try again 
>>>>>> later. If I use my watch Se Siri will identify the same song as I 
>>>>>> requested Siri on my phone to identify every time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That's what I’m getting as well.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chris Judge
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>>>>> Sent: October 8, 2022 2:32 PM
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> All I get is Sorry, I can't recognize music right now.
>>>>>>> I have tried later, about an hour apart including just now, and 
>>>>>>> nothing.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> However, if I simply have Siri open Shazam, it identifies the 
>>>>>>> song quickly.  And, something I just noticed, there is a button 
>>>>>>> to get the lyrics of the song.  That is something I will use 
>>>>>>> more now that I paid attention to the Shazam screen.
>>>>>>> Now, I do not subscribe to Apple Music, so wondering if those 
>>>>>>> who are having success, have that subscription?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just seems very odd that some people get answer while others do not.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in 
>>>>>>> touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent 
>>>>>>> Life in the Universe
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:24 AM
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have an iPhone 13 pro max updated to the latest version of IOS.
>>>>>>> My Siri correctly identifies songs if I ask her what song is 
>>>>>>> playing, she gives me the correct answer.  I think the song has 
>>>>>>> to be actually playing when you ask her the question to work 
>>>>>>> correctly.  I have also been able to tell Siri to Hang up on a 
>>>>>>> call and it works correctly as well.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/8/22, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I just re-read their original message, they said, confusingly, 
>>>>>>>>> the iPhone SE
>>>>>>>>> 20 first generation.  That is not what it was called, it was 
>>>>>>>>> called the SE 2nd generation or the SE 2020 and then this 
>>>>>>>>> year, the SE 2022, i.e. SE 3rd generation,  was released.  The 
>>>>>>>>> SE 1st gen was the smaller one released in 2016, which 
>>>>>>>>> apparently is not what they have after all.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Both SE 2022 and 2020 can be updated to iOS 16.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> There was no SE in 2021.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I hope that is all sorted now.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>>>>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in 
>>>>>>>>> touch with it.”
>>>>>>>>> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the 
>>>>>>>>> Universe
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Donna Casteen
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:03 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: "a question about updating
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Richard, why can't both iPhones be updated to IOS 16.02? I 
>>>>>>>>> have an iPhone Se
>>>>>>>>> 2020 & their iPhone is a Se 2021. My phone can be updated & 
>>>>>>>>> their phone is newer than mine. Confused here????
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> One word answers are not useful, especially when one of the 
>>>>>>>>>> phones mentioned cannot update to iOS 16.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>>>>>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in 
>>>>>>>>>> touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for 
>>>>>>>>>> Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Mr Ed
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 9:45 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: "a question about updating
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Yes
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On 
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Lelia Struve
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2022 10:00 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Viphone <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: "a question about updating
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi, so my question is this, for those who have either an s e
>>>>>>>>>> 20 first gen, or an iPhone 11, would you update to the latest 
>>>>>>>>>> IOS or no?
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Lelia
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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