And I don't miss the days when I dropped my old flip phone or whatever I had at 
the time and phone, battery cover, battery and all came apart and were 
skittering down the street  in different directions.
I also remember buying an extra battery for some phone I had back then and 
paying $69 or $79 for just a second battery which of course was not a Lithium 
battery so it would develop a memory after a year or two.
Now you go to Apple and for $49 they put in a new battery, doesn't sound very 
complicated to me and if I were at 80% battery capacity and were planning to 
keep my iPhone 8 for at least another year I would do it in a heartbeat.
Of course you can always go back to a non-smartphone, pretty sure you can still 
get a flip phone, but then of course you can say good bye to accessible 
texting, contacts, GPS navigation, reading books on your phone, doing some 
quick OCR of some piece of mail lying on your desk, checking the weather, your 
bank balance and I could continue for several more lines listing things I do 
with my smartphone. Is an iPhone expensive? Yes, no doubt, but what about the 
$2,000 Canadian I spend on the HPPDA with MobileGeo back in 2005 or 2006 which 
was the first truly portable and accessible GPS. It had this funny overlay with 
the buttons so the touch screen of the PDA was pressed in the right places and 
one of the things I remember the most is how often I had to stop walking and 
reboot the thing because it wasn't working.
Then there was the $500 for my Booksense and later when I had my first Windows 
5.1 smartphone I had to buy MobileSpeak for $300 and MobileGeo for $900 to have 
a screenreader and GPS. I used to buy these little HTC smartphones which had 
the full keyboard with buttons and they were around $400 so add this up, $400 + 
$300 for the screenreader and $900 for the GPS and you now just spend $1,600 
for an accessible smartphone with GPS. I could now go to an Apple Store and buy 
an iPhone SE 2022 for $579 Canadian and while this is Apple's "lowest-end" 
iPhone, it is still 5 times more stable and reliable and I can do 10 times as 
much with it.
It's easy to forget what we had or did not have even 15 years ago and how far 
this technology has come and what Apple's move to making these devices 
accessible out of the box has done for accessibility in general. It's all too 
easy to complain about new bugs when a new version of iOS comes out and about 
the lack of accessibility in some apps, but let's face it, we do have it pretty 
good these days. Yes, I know Apple did not develop Voiceover on the Mac and all 
iOS devices, watches and Apple TV's out of pure goodness and all that, but they 
started the ball rolling in a direction nobody thought it could go before and 
to a large degree it is because of that why Android accessibility is what it is 
now, why Microsoft is putting a lot of effort into making Narrator a better 
experience and why just about every large company nowadays has some sort of 
accessibility department.

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael 
Irons
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 9:18 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: How to replace an iphone's battery.

I like the non-smart phones where you could replace the battery yourself. 
Unfortunately a lot of things on the non-smart phones were not accessible to 
me. That is why I switched over to the iPhone.
Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 14, 2022, at 11:01 AM, Barbara Stahl <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Wow, That's crazy. I definitely won't be trying to replace it myself.  Why does 
it have to be so complicated.  It makes me a bit nostalgic for my non-smart 
phones where you could just pop open the back and easily replace the battery.
Thank you all so much for the info.
Hopefully they will still have iphone 8 batteries when I'm ready to replace 
mine.  The battery health says its running at 80 percent which still gives me 
several hours of use before it runs down.  I hope to get a bit more milage out 
of my phone before upgrading, because these devices are crazy expensive lol.


On Oct 14, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Jonathan Cohn <[email protected]> wrote:
Well, there is a self replacement program for iPhone batteries, but if my 
memory serves me correctly, you get about 100 pounds (weight not UK Currency) 
of tools that are required to do it as a loan.
There was a lot of press about this about 6 months ago.

                          Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On Oct 14, 2022, at 9:55 AM, Barbara Stahl 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi!
So in the battery health thread, some people discussed getting a new iphone 
battery. So I was wondering, how do you change an iphone's battery? Do you have 
to send it away to apple, or can i somehow buy a replacement battery and 
replace it myself?

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