Before the iphone, I used to have two nochia phones with a specially installed 
screen reader on them.  This made them pretty accessible. But The iphone is 
much better. I wouldn't go back, I was just saying that I wished that you could 
change the batteries as easily as you could with them.  I never ever ever want 
to go back to to texting using a phone key bad, it was just terrible, lol.  

> On Oct 14, 2022, at 1:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> And I don't miss the days when I dropped my old flip phone or whatever I had 
> at the time and phone, battery cover, battery and all came apart and were 
> skittering down the street  in different directions.
> I also remember buying an extra battery for some phone I had back then and 
> paying $69 or $79 for just a second battery which of course was not a Lithium 
> battery so it would develop a memory after a year or two.
> Now you go to Apple and for $49 they put in a new battery, doesn't sound very 
> complicated to me and if I were at 80% battery capacity and were planning to 
> keep my iPhone 8 for at least another year I would do it in a heartbeat.
> Of course you can always go back to a non-smartphone, pretty sure you can 
> still get a flip phone, but then of course you can say good bye to accessible 
> texting, contacts, GPS navigation, reading books on your phone, doing some 
> quick OCR of some piece of mail lying on your desk, checking the weather, 
> your bank balance and I could continue for several more lines listing things 
> I do with my smartphone. Is an iPhone expensive? Yes, no doubt, but what 
> about the $2,000 Canadian I spend on the HPPDA with MobileGeo back in 2005 or 
> 2006 which was the first truly portable and accessible GPS. It had this funny 
> overlay with the buttons so the touch screen of the PDA was pressed in the 
> right places and one of the things I remember the most is how often I had to 
> stop walking and reboot the thing because it wasn't working.
> Then there was the $500 for my Booksense and later when I had my first 
> Windows 5.1 smartphone I had to buy MobileSpeak for $300 and MobileGeo for 
> $900 to have a screenreader and GPS. I used to buy these little HTC 
> smartphones which had the full keyboard with buttons and they were around 
> $400 so add this up, $400 + $300 for the screenreader and $900 for the GPS 
> and you now just spend $1,600 for an accessible smartphone with GPS. I could 
> now go to an Apple Store and buy an iPhone SE 2022 for $579 Canadian and 
> while this is Apple's "lowest-end" iPhone, it is still 5 times more stable 
> and reliable and I can do 10 times as much with it.
> It's easy to forget what we had or did not have even 15 years ago and how far 
> this technology has come and what Apple's move to making these devices 
> accessible out of the box has done for accessibility in general. It's all too 
> easy to complain about new bugs when a new version of iOS comes out and about 
> the lack of accessibility in some apps, but let's face it, we do have it 
> pretty good these days. Yes, I know Apple did not develop Voiceover on the 
> Mac and all iOS devices, watches and Apple TV's out of pure goodness and all 
> that, but they started the ball rolling in a direction nobody thought it 
> could go before and to a large degree it is because of that why Android 
> accessibility is what it is now, why Microsoft is putting a lot of effort 
> into making Narrator a better experience and why just about every large 
> company nowadays has some sort of accessibility department.
>  
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Michael Irons
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2022 9:18 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: How to replace an iphone's battery.
>  
> I like the non-smart phones where you could replace the battery yourself. 
> Unfortunately a lot of things on the non-smart phones were not accessible to 
> me. That is why I switched over to the iPhone.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Oct 14, 2022, at 11:01 AM, Barbara Stahl <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Wow, That's crazy. I definitely won't be trying to replace it myself.  Why 
> does it have to be so complicated.  It makes me a bit nostalgic for my 
> non-smart phones where you could just pop open the back and easily replace 
> the battery.  
> Thank you all so much for the info.  
> Hopefully they will still have iphone 8 batteries when I'm ready to replace 
> mine.  The battery health says its running at 80 percent which still gives me 
> several hours of use before it runs down.  I hope to get a bit more milage 
> out of my phone before upgrading, because these devices are crazy expensive 
> lol.  
> 
> 
> On Oct 14, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Jonathan Cohn <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Well, there is a self replacement program for iPhone batteries, but if my 
> memory serves me correctly, you get about 100 pounds (weight not UK Currency) 
> of tools that are required to do it as a loan.
> There was a lot of press about this about 6 months ago.
>  
>                           Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 14, 2022, at 9:55 AM, Barbara Stahl <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>  
> Hi!  
> So in the battery health thread, some people discussed getting a new iphone 
> battery. So I was wondering, how do you change an iphone's battery? Do you 
> have to send it away to apple, or can i somehow buy a replacement battery and 
> replace it myself?  
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