I have never had to use pepper spray. The cans last for a few years and have expiration dates posted on them. I am prepared to taste the pepper spray, but I know most of it will go on the offender rather than me.
I had only two incidents. One time I was wearing a pager on my belt. The criminal followed me down a residential street, pushed me forward and pulled the pager off my belt. This demonstrates that I would not have been victimized if the criminals did not see the pager. Another incident was in winter and I was in a transfer tunnel between two subway lines at the afternoon rush. The criminal puts his arms around me and pulls out the gloves and hat from coat pockets. I started shouting about it and other passengers forced the criminal to give me back my gloves and hat. Kelly On 11/17/22, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote: > Kelly, > Have you ever had to use the pepper spray? > > How do you avoid blow-back from the spray? > > How long are the cans good for? Any concerns about them failing to work > because they are too old? > > Personal crimes are up everywhere, so this is good information to have if > you tend to walk alone a lot. > > > > > > Richard, USA. > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > -- Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe > > My web site: https://www.turner42.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kelly > Pierce > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 8:38 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Is this a potential security problem? > > I have been a victim advocate in Chicago for more than 25 years. > Criminals seem to target blind people less often for robberies because a > blind person does not know that a gun is pointed at them or that a criminal > is displaying an unsheathed knife. This needs to be explained and described > to the blind person before they comply with the criminal. They want to act > quickly and disappear and the extra communications needed for compliance > requires extra time and hassle. > > More likely, the blind person will experience theft when a phone is left on > a table at a public place like a restaurant and a criminal picks it up and > runs away with the phone. Phones left in coats or unattended backpacks are > also in jeopardy of theft. Another theft possibility is when a blind person > is casually using the phone on a train or a bus and the criminal yanks it > out of the user’s hand and runs away when the door is open. As mentioned, a > common way to avoid phone robberies is to avoid using the iPhone in public. > When it needs to be used, such as with a navigation app, the phone should be > in a pocket or held closely near the body with a hand firmly grasping it. > Sighted criminals target those who are flashy with their Apple tech. > I also have a strategy to prevent criminals from getting in my face and > causing problems to my safety. I carry around a two or three ounce can of > Heatwave brand pepper spray, Napalm strength. This is way more intense then > the pepper spray sold in most retail stores and even more intense and > painful than the pepper spray police use. Fox is another good brand. These > pepper sprays drop bad guys in seconds because they strip the protective > oily layer on the surface of the skin so pain is felt immediately. I get the > fog version as a blind person because it is difficult to aim a stream > accurately. A three second blast of Heatwave Napalm strength to a criminal > putting a phone up to my face will cause him to drop the iPhone and writhe > in an inescapable cloud of intense and sustained pain. Small belt pouches > are sold for pepper spray cans so the container is easily available within > arm’s reach. > > Kelly > > > > > On 11/16/22, Dennis Long <[email protected]> wrote: >> If you are that paranoid ditch your smart phone get a flip phone and >> call it a day. I've never heard of this happening. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of >> Steve Matzura >> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 4:21 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Is this a potential security problem? >> >> Often I hear stories in the news of people who are mugged and their >> phones stolen. If someone's phone is stolen, what's to prevent the >> mugger from snatching the phone, holding the phone up to their face, >> and unlocking it with Face ID, then taking off and disappearing with >> an unlocked phone and access to all the information contained therein? >> If a visually impaired person loses their phone, this is not an >> unlikely scenario as the mugger can take the device and just wait >> around and follow the visually impaired person without them knowing >> it, then, when the time is right, whip out the phone and get it >> unlocked without the owner ever even knowing it happened. Might it not >> be a bad idea to disable unlocking with Face ID? 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