Hi Kelly,

Keep in mind that if a guy is in your face so to speak and you sprayed him in 
that close proximity with your fancy pepper spray you'd most likely be on the 
ground right along side him.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2022 8:38 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Is this a potential security problem?

I have been a victim advocate in Chicago for more than 25 years.
Criminals seem to target blind people less often for robberies because a blind 
person does not know that a gun is pointed at them or that a criminal is 
displaying an unsheathed knife. This needs to be explained and described to the 
blind person before they comply with the criminal. They want to act quickly and 
disappear and the extra communications needed for compliance requires extra 
time and hassle.

More likely, the blind person will experience theft when a phone is left on a 
table at a public place like a restaurant and a criminal picks it up and runs 
away with the phone. Phones left in coats or unattended backpacks are also in 
jeopardy of theft. Another theft possibility is when a blind person is casually 
using the phone on a train or a bus and the criminal yanks it out of the user’s 
hand and runs away when the door is open. As mentioned, a common way to avoid 
phone robberies is to avoid using the iPhone in public. When it needs to be 
used, such as with a navigation app, the phone should be in a pocket or held 
closely near the body with a hand firmly grasping it.
Sighted criminals target those who are flashy with their Apple tech.
I also have a strategy to prevent criminals from getting in my face and causing 
problems to my safety. I carry around a two or three ounce can of Heatwave 
brand pepper spray, Napalm strength. This is way more intense then the pepper 
spray sold in most retail stores and even more intense and painful than the 
pepper spray police use.  Fox is another good brand. These pepper sprays drop 
bad guys in seconds because they strip the protective oily layer on the surface 
of the skin so pain is felt immediately. I get the fog version as a blind 
person because it is difficult to aim a stream accurately. A three second blast 
of Heatwave Napalm strength to a criminal putting a phone up to my face will 
cause him to drop the iPhone and writhe in an inescapable cloud of intense and 
sustained pain. Small belt pouches are sold for pepper spray cans so the 
container is easily available within arm’s reach.

Kelly




On 11/16/22, Dennis Long <[email protected]> wrote:
> If you are that paranoid ditch your smart phone get a flip phone and 
> call it a day.  I've never heard of this happening.
>
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> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Steve Matzura
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2022 4:21 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Is this a potential security problem?
>
> Often I hear stories in the news of people who are mugged and their 
> phones stolen. If someone's phone is stolen, what's to prevent the 
> mugger from snatching the phone, holding the phone up to their face, 
> and unlocking it with Face ID, then taking off and disappearing with 
> an unlocked phone and access to all the information contained therein? 
> If a visually impaired person loses their phone, this is not an 
> unlikely scenario as the mugger can take the device and just wait 
> around and follow the visually impaired person without them knowing 
> it, then, when the time is right, whip out the phone and get it 
> unlocked without the owner ever even knowing it happened. Might it not 
> be a bad idea to disable unlocking with Face ID? Or am I just being New York 
> paranoid?
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