Yes, I definitely echo what Joshua says below. I was the only person in the 
beta who reported the issue with your place skipping around when rewinding or 
fast forwarding while a book was playing, and I think there were only two of us 
who reported the issue with the sleep timer. How many people are impacted by a 
bug definitely plays into the decision on whether to hold up a release for a 
fix or not.

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2022 3:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Bard app not keeping my place

I am not having the losing place issue either.  It could be iPhone specific 
depending on what model of iPhone one has.  Again, email [email protected] 
and also call your talking book library and let them know.  I hardly ever use 
the sleep timer in the bard mobile app.

On 12/13/22, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't see the losing place issue, and I did express my concerns 
> about releasing the update with the sleep timer bug, but NLS had other 
> things to consider when making this decision. They didn't share these 
> things with me, but I know that in software engineering and release 
> management, there are multiple things to consider in addition to The 
> bugs that may still exist.
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
> Kimberly Gardner
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2022 1:53 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Bard app not keeping my place
>
> I wasn't part of the beta testing, but personally I would have 
> preferred to wait for the new features while they addressed the sleep 
> timer/losing place issue. I can't imagine anyone who actually uses the 
> bard app feeling that totally losing your place is at all acceptable.
> To my mind that would be like closing a print book without a bookmark 
> and telling the reader, "just try to remember which page you were on."
>
> Anyway, rant over. Thanks for the info.
>
> On 12/12/22, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The issue with the sleep timer was discovered during the beta testing.
>> It was introduced at the very end of the beta testing cycle when 
>> addressing another issue that had to do with your place jumping 
>> around when fast forwarding and rewinding while playing a book. It 
>> was determined that this was the lesser of the two bugs, and it was 
>> important to get the new features out, such as searching for books 
>> with the programming interface and not just dumping people into the 
>> web site. I wasn't happy with this bug escaping the beta cycle, but 
>> given the alternatives, I was OK with this decision.
>>
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf 
>> Of Kimberly
>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2022 6:55 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Bard app not keeping my place
>>
>> Well, at least it isn’t just me, but that really doesn’t make it any 
>> better does it? You would think these were things that Barb would’ve 
>> tested before they made the last release when you?
>>
>> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
>> ” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous 
>> books can be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen
>>
>>> On Dec 12, 2022, at 5:53 PM, Penny Reeder <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The same thing happens to me. If I remember, I insert a bookmark 
>>> just before leaving the app, but, of course, when relying on the 
>>> sleep timer, this is sometimes impossible...!
>>>
>>> I wish NLS would repair this malfunction.
>>> Penny
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 12/12/22, Kimberly <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Thanks I’ll do that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
>>>> ” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous 
>>>> books can be.“ Viet Thanh Nguyen
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 12, 2022, at 4:01 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The issue with the sleep timer is a bug that NLS is aware of.
>>>>> As for bard mobile not keeping your place in a book after closing 
>>>>> it in the app switcher, I am having no issues.  I can begin to 
>>>>> play a book in bard mobile, then go to my home screen, then close 
>>>>> bard mobile with the app switcher, then reopen bard mobile and my 
>>>>> book will resume playback from where I left off with no issues.  
>>>>> I'd email [email protected] and let them know of the issue.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/12/22, Kimberly <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Ever since installing the last version of the bard app, I’ve been 
>>>>>> having an issue where my place is not saved in the books I’m 
>>>>>> listening to. It seems to happen if I remove the app from the app 
>>>>>> switcher, and then re-open it and attempt to restart my listening.
>>>>>> I also find that the sleep timer doesn’t hold my place either.
>>>>>> This renders the sleep timer almost useless in a practical sense.
>>>>>> I’m running an SE 2020 using 16.1 and the most recent version of 
>>>>>> the bard app. Is anyone else experiencing  this behavior?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any help or suggestions are appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
>>>>>> ” those who seek to band books are wrong, no matter how dangerous 
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