I am nuts about heavy food, do not like stuff full of air, and I would dearly love to enjoy some of that bread!
I, for one, never wanted to get a bread maker. My sister-in-law had one, and her bread did not taste like home made bread; it tasted like store-bought bread. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 3:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: smart bread makers or else physically accessible I have a Kitchen Aid stand mixer for the mixing/kneading process since my taste in bread is a bit different. I am originally from Germany and even though I was born there and lived there until I was 22, I am 56 now which means I have been in Canada for 34 years versus my 22 years in Germany. But my taste for heavy German-style sourdough bread has not changed. I make crusty rolls and do a lot of German-style cakes, but I have not yet tried my hand at real sourdough bread because even though I live in a very small community of a little over 5,000, we have a very skilled bread maker here. She is Australian and not German, but she has a real wood fired oven and her bread is as good as any from a traditional German bakery and while I want to learn at some point, the fact is that she can do it vbetter than me. My Dad's cousin in Germany was a baker and his father was a baker and things there are also changing as small artisan style bakeries disappear and more and more stuff is made in large factories and sold in supermarket bakeries and so on. I guess in many cases you like what you grow up with, I know plenty of people here who can't understand how I like this heavy bread with a crust where one quarter inch thick slice with a bit of ham and cheese on top fills you up, some think it's sour and of course it has a hint of that as does all sourdough bread, you can't toast it because it's just not that kind of bread, but if I am away on holidays somewhere I can't get it then I can't wait for my first fresh slice when I get home. From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Barbara Stahl Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 11:45 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: smart bread makers or else physically accessible A mixer and a neater but in the end the bread comes out great On May 3, 2023, at 2:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: But then she basically uses the bread maker as nothing more than a mixer. From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Barbara Stahl Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2023 6:42 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: smart bread makers or else physically accessible Hi everyone. I just wanted to put my two cents in here. My mom has used a bread maker to make delicious bread for at least 20 years. She uses it to mix up and need the bread dough. She then removes the dough from the bread maker puts it in bread pans and lets it rise that way. Then she bakes it in the oven. She has used it to make all kinds of bread white bread Italian bread wheat bread rye bread banana bread all kinds and they all were delicious On May 2, 2023, at 2:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: I don't want to talk anybody out of buying a bread maker if they really think they want such a device, in fact I am guilty of buying into this fad back in the late 90's when they first became popular. However, I would like to point out that making the kind of basic bread you can make in a bread maker is really quite easy and really all the bread maker does is to combine 3 tasks which is to mix/knead, rise/proof the dough and then bake. You still have to put the ingredients, typically flour, water, yeast,, a bit of salt and potentially any seeds you may add into the bread maker. I would highly recommend to read a bit about making bread, learn a few ground rules about activating "active dry yeast" and try to mix/knead the dough, then let it rise, punch it back down and let rise again and finally bake. It's a very satisfying process and the results once you get the hang of it are better than what comes out of a bread maker. There is of course an entire different area of bread making when you start using sour dough and making heavy bread with flour such as spelt, Red Fife, Einkorn or other ancient grains, but that type of bread can't be made in a bread maker anyways. My bread maker, it was from the brand "Regal", got used maybe a dozen times and then it sat around for 10 or 15 years before I finally sold it for $25 on Facebook. From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Monday, May 1, 2023 12:31 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: smart bread makers or else physically accessible Use one by Quisineart, it has physical buttons and defaults to 1 when turned off. You should be able to get the hang of it, it has physical buttons and if you get stuck can use Be My Eyes or IRA to read the screen. I enjoy mine though am also following in case there is a better suggestion out there. From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 1, 2023 3:01 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: smart bread makers or else physically accessible Hi I have herd of a talking bred maker that once exzisted but I have not seen it my self. 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